Thoughts on this?

[nevernotstruggling]

I find this a bit weird. It's the form for summer reading challenge. No other data capture around minority groups or access issues. I find it a bit creepy and a stealth way to collect data. Thoughts?

I would encourage DD to describe herself in another way as well as ticking the girl box. She has an obviously female name.

It does seem a bit strange how they ask but it's better than replacing sex with gender.

It’s insidious. I would have used a black marker pen to write the word NONSENSE in the box that says ‘in another way.’

Remember this crap from a few years ago?

Forgot picture ^

Another way: Smarter than you, you brain dead woke morons, asking questions and then providing the possibility for answers that make the question completely f*cking meaningless.

Oooh I wouldn't like that, when its connected to a name and a school.

What age group is this aimed at and is it from the school or a library?

I didn't like it. I crossed them all out on the form. My nephew who was with me made me write 'why????' In the box. He's 7

What's the point, if they want to know who is using their service?

They are trying to encourage boys to read doing they want to know if they're getting them into the library?

@Soola it's the city library service. I think it's a creepy thing to collect data on.

@nevernotstruggling

Thank you.

It’s vile.

I don't like it at all.

Another way?

There’s another way? What other way? Wtf is this saying to children? You can be a boy or a girl or something that is both/neither/a dragon?

There is no other way ffs.

Through interpretive dance.

That’s the obvious other way.

4”3, blue eyes, brown hair
Child
Sporty
Happy
Dragon

What exactly do they way a child to say?

Maybe a little stick drawing?
Or "please see attached" and attach a very detailed drawing?

What irks me the most is that the data they capture is useless.

What age group is this aimed at and is it from the school or a library?

It's aimed at primary school age - the younger end really.

The library service will have had to justify why they collect each bit of information. Sex will be useful to ensure that the marketing appeals to both boys and girls.

Saying 'How do you describe yourself' is a strange way to ask a child's sex. I'm not sure most 7 year olds would understand the question until the choice of answers are seen.

It's a form that cares more about not offending adults than ensuring that it's easy for children to understand and complete.

From which City Library s that? [Please don't say Leeds or Edinburgh!]

It's a form that cares more about not offending adults than ensuring that it's easy for children to understand and complete.

Exactly.

It's Plymouth

I’ve now found out that Plymouth Library is controlled by Common Purpose a vile lefty version of Freemasonry.

😡

What's wrong with it? You don't have to answer.

That’s the standard form for the challenge across all libraries AFAIK, as opposed to being a specific library/area

Since it already asks your name the answer to ‘How wouldn’t you describe yourself?’ is ‘See above’

Why aren't they interested in how many girls v boys are taking part though (sex)?

I mean it's totally valid that boys not being as into reading as girls is due to gender (in the sex role sense) but I'm not at all sure that the gap will make sense to measure as internal gender id, given that socialisation into sex role starts so young.

If they have decided that the gap in reading between boys and girls is to do with internal gender id and not to do with sex then that's quite big need isn't it?

Given that many more girls id as boys than vice versa, maybe the stats will even out? Or, do trans boys have a similar attitude on average to average boys? Or, is disinclination to reading a sign that a child is a boy inside?

that's quite big news isn't it?

Sorry typo on phone