Typical BBC bias

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Has anyone just seen Newsnight? It's just had a short segment on No Outsiders, with Emily Maitlis and a female spokesperson both saying earnestly how important it is. AND NO OTHER POINT OF VIEW.

Someone should send them Shelley Charlesworth analysis

www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

A couple of weeks ago, they had someone on Radio 4 news who is supposedly a mediator with the parents in the school where the problem is. I've never heard a more completely biased mediator in my life. He had nothing but contempt for the opponents of No Outsiders.

I was too fed up to say more last night, but it was 19 minutes in
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I was just astonished that it was presented as though 'surely all reasonable people would agree to this' and invoked, unquestioningly, the Equalities Act. I was so disappointed in Emily Maitlis, who was completely uncritical.

...having said that, one of the points was that the government should not be leaving the decision about this to individual headteachers, which I think is right.

I always used to dismiss people who said the BBC was propaganda for the state but now I believe them.

In Canada the CBC is absolutely state propaganda. No questioning whatsoever of the "progressive" (oh, how I've come to hate that word) party line. I don't think the BBC is all that far behind tbh.

In Canada the CBC is absolutely state propaganda.

Feminist Current article:
‘Drag Kids’ doesn’t celebrate the ‘true self’; it pushes hyper-feminization and hyper-sexualization on kids
If we can see the problem with sexualizing girls in beauty contests, surely we can see the similarities in “drag kids.”
JULY 8, 2019 by MEGHAN MURPHY

(extract)
"The CBC’s recent, baffling obsession with “drag kids” is reaching new heights. A teaser for the CBC’s new Drag Kids documentary, scheduled to air on July 26th, promises to offer “a glimpse into the glamorous lives of four of these dreamers — also known as kid drag queens — as they meet other drag kids for the first time.” Images of these “drag kids” show four children, aged 10-12, loaded up with makeup, false eyelashes, wigs, and heels. A boy on the top left, Nemis Melancon-Golden, appears particularly sexualized, dressed up as some version of a cowgirl Barbie. “Their colourful journey is studded with high heels, makeup and car singalongs. It’s also fraught with hardships, from backstage meltdowns to the hate and harassment that comes with being a kid who likes to dress up,” the write up explains.

But of course this is not simply about “dressing up.” Every kid loves playing dress up. Most have some version of a tickle trunk full of costumes and their parents old clothes. It is great fun. But Drag Kids is about much more than just playing dress up.

These kids are learning hyper-feminization, and hyper-sexualization, and being told this is about “expressing their true selves.” The CBC (and liberal culture at large) has reframed “gender” (and, by association, a particularly sexualized version of femininity) as an empowering choice individuals make" (continues)
www.feministcurrent.com/2019/07/08/drag-kids-doesnt-celebrate-the-true-self-it-pushes-hyper-feminization-and-hyper-sexualization-on-kids/

It was atrocious and Emma Hardy MP was woefully ignorant.

Here, by the way, is the letter signed by MPs and initiated by Hardy - and why the Newsnight slot was aired.

Thanks to Safe Schools Alliance for pointing this out:

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1148547868313161730

reframed “gender” (and, by association, a particularly sexualized version of femininity) as an empowering choice individuals make"

This.

It takes me back to that set diagram where
Group A thinks "Your gendered behaviour doesn't match your body => change your behaviour";
Group B thinks, "Your gendered behaviour doesn't match your body => change your body";
Group C thinks, "Your body and your behaviour are just fine. There's no such thing as not matching."

Group B are acting in response to Group A... but it's a faulty response because it relies on Group A's faulty premises.

(I think where I've seen that diagram, Group A is labelled as conservatives, Group B as the transgender movement, and Group C as radical feminists.)

Did anyone else get invited to take part in a survey about the BBC after making a complaint about their bias?
You can find the survey at
www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/A3Z54/
It needs to be completed before midday on Thursday 11th July.

Until I saw the questions I was quite optimistic, expecting to be given a chance to point out repeated evidence of BBC bias in reporting or ignoring news stories and choice of guests to discussion programmes.

Turns out that there are only 3 questions.
1. How important is an independent, impartial news service? - The available answers do not include the option Yes, that would be good, so if you could change things to make your news service independent and impartial I would be delighted.
2. How important is it that we have a non-commercial, independent national broadcaster? - "Very important, which is why I am so dismayed by your current output" is not available as an option.
3. Should the BBC continue to be funded through the TV licence fee? - My preferred answer "It would be if you really were impartial and unbiased, but as things stand you ignore developments or misrepresent them with blatant lies. So you are charging people a hefty fee and serving them spin and propaganda in return, under the guise of impartiality and independence." was again conspicuous by its absence, so I chose No.

Notice the way they started out with two very leading questions with obvious yes answers before sneaking in that final question about the license fee? I wonder how much of the license fee went towards producing those three questions?

The BBC has been sinisterly biased on this whole issue. It has made me realise that in the UK we clearly have a lot of 'media blackouts' on stories that don't fit whatever agenda they are trying to push. I used to dismiss that notion before and believed the BBC was fair but this issue has shown that it only pushes the narrative it wants to. It makes me question everything else it reports now.

I've been taking a look at how other news broadcasters have covered this.

I don't watch much live TV, so can't compare their purely broadcast offerings.

What I can find on their websites seems similar to the BBC.

Eg
Sky
news.sky.com/story/teacher-at-centre-of-lgbt-lessons-row-in-birmingham-received-death-threat-11688253

ITV
www.itv.com/news/central/2019-07-03/school-to-restart-no-outsiders-equality-lessons-after-consultation-with-parents/

There was a thread this morning about Piers Morgan calling someone a bigot on ITV's Good Morning (I didn't see GMB, so can't form my own judgement www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3633339-To-think-that-for-medical-reasons-it-is-important-that-transgender-people-are-correctly-sexed )

I've been skeptical about the bias BBC crowd for ages, mainly because they seemed to come across as nutcases.

But now all I see is that after Savile, the BBC still play down safeguarding of children when it comes to groups whose interests they want to advance. You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to see that there's either something rotten or sinister at the heart of the BBC.

Yes, actually the whole thing makes me feel a little unhinged. The BBC, the Guardian, and then closer to home for me, and even worse bias, the CBC.
I always knew that the CBC at least leaned in a certain direction, but the blatant suppression on this issue, and now advocacy, is really shocking.
I feel like I am getting into real conspiracy theory territory. I also have had to start questioning some of their other narratives, I feel like next it could be the moon landing. I have had to stop listening to the CBC, my husband still does and I can't help but get angry as I constantly see how they are promoting one viewpoint so that any other is completely obscured.

Looking at broadcast drama, Butterfly and Emmerdale are ITV.

Again, I haven't caught those as I don't watch much TV. I seem to remember there was thread on MN about Butterfly, which included a visit to Mermaids. Mermaids claim they saw a spike in referrals after the show.

Looking at the Butterfly threads now, some MNers did make their views known to ITV but I haven't found any detail about what (if any) replies they got.

see thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3296433-BBC-Bias-Collecting-Examples-here

I've been skeptical about the bias BBC crowd for ages, mainly because they seemed to come across as nutcases.

The thing is, you have right wingers saying the BBC has a left wing bias and left wingers saying the BBC has a right wing bias. So that allows the BBC to say if they both hate us, we must be getting it right.

But I think it's more that the BBC has an establishment bias. If the BBC approves, you can be sure it's a consensus among the chattering classes and is coming from the top down. Genderism is a case in point.

Its demoralizing. There is clearly a party line on so many issues within the BBC and they only present that point of view. The lack of critical thinking is dire. Is it any wonder that our nation is becoming so polarized when the national broadcaster refuses to talk about any issue in a nuanced way?

Sorry if anyone has seen me saying this on other threads but what we are seeing in the media as a whole is the outcome of the backlash against women's liberation in the 70s, particularly the takeover by queer politics in universities.

First of all they dismantled women's studies and set up women's studies. That is the origins of how sex started to be talked about as gender (and prostitution became sex work). ie choice.

All the students educated then are now in positions of influence in the media (and Government) and the weasel word use of gender are universal. Worse still those students now have children of their own who have only ever known through what they hear around them that sex and gender are the same. They are genuinely puzzled by anyone saying differently.

Emily Matlis and all the reporters are thinking they are cutting edge and aware. Standing up for liberal values. (Newsnight by the way is one of the dumbest news programmes ever, as it is entirely based on media cronies chit chatting amongst themselves as those what they say and think IS the news! the only programme worse is what used to be the Wright Stuff and now has Jeremy Vine who seems to be stuck in some 1950s parody).

So while we were sleeping, thinking feminism is gradually moving forward, in fact there was a well orchestrated campaign to undermine the gains women's liberation had made. Ironically equally powered by MRAs and supposedly radical queer politcs. The common cause being to dismantle the concept that women are discriminated against as a sex class. If sex / gender is a choice it undermines this.

And we slept through the implications of the GRA ie the legal falacy they gender reassignment is actually the same as changing sex. ie we are facing the entrenchment of over 30 years of misogyny erasing women's rights.

Some radical feminists did try to raise the alarm, and it is no comfort to have a socialist feminist historian confirm through research what many women spoke about from personal perception (someone else's quote)
As someone posted elsewhere if you

I am getting into real conspiracy theory territory. I also have had to start questioning some of their other narratives, I feel like next it could be the moon landing. I have had to stop listening to the CBC, my husband still does and I can't help but get angry as I constantly see how they are promoting one viewpoint so that any other is completely obscured.

Same, Goosefoot, same. I used to love CBC Radio, grew up on it. But I've become so deeply suspicious of it in the last couple of years that I sometimes wonder if I'm listening to "fake news" I think it's actually made me more critical of news in general, and more open to considering all points of view!

Get this tonight:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/entertainment-arts-48948591?__twitter_impression=true
BBC director general warns against 'assault on truth'

The BBC's director general has warned that the world is facing "the biggest assault on truth since the 1930s".

Speaking at the Global Conference For Media Freedom in London, Tony Hall said: "An assault on truth is an assault on democracy."

He compared the spread of fake news to propaganda used by the Nazi party in the build-up to the Second World War.

"All those who believe in integrity in news must work together to turn the tide," he said.

Lord Hall added that the BBC had a role to play in battling fake news and press repression across the world. "We are ready to do even more to promote freedom of expression worldwide," he said.

Well.... About that...

I know that people always say both the left and the right think the BBC is biased so that must mean it's fair, but as someone who is probably mostly in the centre politically, I definitely think the BBC has gradually shifted more and more to the left over the years. I've also noticed that the format, content and language they use feels more like what they used to reserve for newsround articles aimed at children. Another thing I've noticed reading about this topic is how much more left wing mainstream society is in the UK than in the US. What is classed as right wing here would probably be more 'centre' there from what I can tell.

It does seem that the more left wing the media becomes, the more the people seem to be rebelling, as can be seen by how the majority voted for Brexit and how much support the Brexit Party got, and now the new women's movement emerging in response to this attack on our rights from the left. I think there is growing awareness and resentment amongst the people about a lot of left wing issues and people are not feeling heard, since when they speak up they are usually told they are some sort of 'phobic' or 'bigot.' So, not feeling heard, people use their vote instead.