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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

would you date someone who is gender critical?

279 replies

Bespin · 29/06/2019 16:40

Seeing as there is a would you date a trans person thread for proper balance I'm sure you will be happy with a would you date a gender critical person. I know we could ask for every other characteristic that people do and do not find attractive, and then we can judge people by there answers. But no one needs to date anyone they are not attracted too.

So my answer is I'd probably be attracted to them but over time if there views were such that they impacted on me negatively then that would be a massive turn off.

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LangCleg · 30/06/2019 12:12

because its not goady to ask a question

Your whole thread is based on a false equivalence, which many posts have explained to you.

I still wouldn't date a narc.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 30/06/2019 12:13

You seem to have a real problem acknowledging that especally the european scientists in victorian england argued that certain cultures were sub human.

Pretty sure they were able to classify the "sub humans" into male and female though....

aliasundercover · 30/06/2019 12:19

but still we call people trans? so what should we call people then?

'Trans' is a term that people who believe they were 'assigned the wrong sex (not gender)' seem to find acceptable to describe themselves. Ok, I can go along with that.
That doesn't mean I have to accept a description that these people choose for me and other non-trans people. 'People'; 'men'; 'women' will do just fine.

If that is too much for you to take how about this: I don't identify as cis, and for you to refer to me as cis is doing me literal violence, etc. Stop oppressing me.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 30/06/2019 12:48

h i can only assume that you feel asking the question in reverse is not appropriate

You havent asked it in reverse...at all

But as i agree with fermats re the goady i shall take the advice of empress and read a book...might even be bunbury

JessicaWakefieldSV · 30/06/2019 13:08

As the other thread was started in good faith i can only assume that you feel asking the question in reverse is not appropriate

You haven’t asked the question in reverse. That is nonsense you still seem incapable of comprehending.

Anyway.... reading Bunbury in the sun

Ereshkigal · 30/06/2019 13:13

because its not goady to ask a question.

A question is simply a type of sentence. Of course it can be goady to ask a question, depending on what that question was and where it was posed, and who to.

For instance the question "did the Holocaust really happen"? Would generally be considered extremely goady in a number of contexts.

NeverSayFreelance · 30/06/2019 13:20

@DuMondeB I'm cis, I'm not gender critical and I support trans people. The opposite of trans isn't "gender critical".

Lamaha · 30/06/2019 13:24

@NeverSayFreelance
Good that you support transpeople.
Do you support them more than you support women and girls?

Ereshkigal · 30/06/2019 13:43

DuMondeB I'm cis, I'm not gender critical and I support trans people. The opposite of trans isn't "gender critical".

Yes, that was DuMondeB's point Hmm

The question is not, as claimed the reverse of the other question.

DuMondeB · 30/06/2019 13:45

I know that the opposite of trans isn’t gender critical! ❤️

My post was to point that exact thing out to the person who started this thread.

¯\(ツ)

ADropofReality · 30/06/2019 13:57

because its not goady to ask a question.

It can be, and this case it pretty bloody obviously is.

FeministCat · 30/06/2019 13:58

I am confused by this question (only read first page).

I am gender critical. Yes, I would date someone gender critical. My husband is gender critical and an ally to feminism.

In fact I would only date someone gender critical because I don’t believe in gender roles (sex stereotypes), gender identities, and so on and I have no interest in having a relationship with someone who does. It would be bad for me as a woman and for the person I am.

TheInebriati · 30/06/2019 14:08

I think OP has been around long enough to follow the guidelines on civil debate and not to use banned terms., so can we quit it with the use of 'cis' please.

www.mumsnet.com/info/trans-rights-moderation-policy

TemporaryPermanent · 30/06/2019 14:13

I had sex with a no deal Brexiter a couple of months ago. He was lovely and so generous, kind etc. But I'm not sure I would want to spend weeks hearing how fantastic Farage is. So it depends on your definition of dating.

AlwaysComingHome · 30/06/2019 14:14

but still we call people trans? so what should we call people then?

We refer to them as ‘trans’ here because the alternatives get us banned.

ah history you got to love it, shall we look at all the other things we used to call people since the dawn of time.

Gish-gallop aside, that doesn’t help your argument.

If we can divide people up arbitrarily why the hell should we accept your divisions?

AlwaysComingHome · 30/06/2019 14:16

because its not goady to ask a question.

It is when it’s a goady question.

EweSurname · 30/06/2019 14:24

I don’t think it is goady though. Perhaps it was trying to be but it’s as interesting (and dare I say valid) as asking whether you would ever date a vegan or someone shorter than you.

And in all those situations the response to whatever answers given really shouldn’t be pressure to account for your preferences, or even worse, attempt to change them.

Bespin · 30/06/2019 14:35

EweSurname

the intent was not to be goady part of the original question was would you date a trans person and there were lots of answers to that part of the question. so I asked the equivalent to that part of the first question. I have very said they are opersite but equivalent like all questions starting with would you date a...... are. People find it goady when people point this out to them.

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Bespin · 30/06/2019 14:37

The answer should harten people on here as it a resounding yes, I could ask it on a trans forum and I'm sure the answer would be very different. also for a goady thread it's 200 posts long, if it was goady it would have sunk or been removed.

again people can have different views to you and they have a right to state them on open forums within the rules.

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AlwaysComingHome · 30/06/2019 14:40

You didn’t stick within the rules. You repeatedly used the term ‘cis’.

Bespin · 30/06/2019 14:43

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Ereshkigal · 30/06/2019 14:48

if it was goady it would have sunk or been removed.

No Grin

Goady threads often run to 1000 posts.

Bespin · 30/06/2019 14:50

Well here's hoping lol. I think by now everyone on here as surly answered the question.

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LolaSmiles · 30/06/2019 14:53

Bespin
Your reply on 'cis' somewhat confirms that you're not just asking questions but are intending to wind up posters whilst claiming otherwise.

The guidelines are clear regarding use of cis.

Your reply:
I used the term cis within the scientific definition of the word as it is the opersite of trans. i thought people liked true definitions on here?
Seems suspiciously goady to trigger a reaction.

TheInebriati · 30/06/2019 14:54

You used the term 'cis' on page 6, and you refuse to accept the definition of 'lesbian'. You've tried to redefine feminism as well.