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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

would you date someone who is gender critical?

279 replies

Bespin · 29/06/2019 16:40

Seeing as there is a would you date a trans person thread for proper balance I'm sure you will be happy with a would you date a gender critical person. I know we could ask for every other characteristic that people do and do not find attractive, and then we can judge people by there answers. But no one needs to date anyone they are not attracted too.

So my answer is I'd probably be attracted to them but over time if there views were such that they impacted on me negatively then that would be a massive turn off.

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Michelleoftheresistance · 30/06/2019 15:02

No sign of any sensible answers or engagement I see. Oh I am surprised. Grin

Bespin · 30/06/2019 16:10

sorry was tidying. I have had a number of what I consider goady replys to my posts but I don't complain that they are goady. Occasionally my answers can be sarcastic just as other posts are, again I can respond to others posts how I like same as people can accuse me of all sorts of things. Just because I have dared to post a reasonable question on an open forum. The need of some people to attack people on here with differing veiws to them continues to amaze me when people want a equal debate. You have managed to long scare off most people with other viewpoints, or they have just thought why bother and left you too it. I stay as I occasionally like to challenge the views held on here. I in no way expect to impact the posters but as is always said there are more people that read these posts than us.

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Mayday19 · 30/06/2019 16:12

There is a scientific definition of being cis gender? Shock Do share.

Bespin · 30/06/2019 16:36

I used the word cis, it's the opersite to trans you can place it in front of words to infer a meaning to that word like cis membrane or trans membrane. some people using it in relation to people some people don't.

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RebelGirl034 · 30/06/2019 16:41

In fairness, I wouldn't date someone who isn't GC.

DtPeabodysLoosePants · 30/06/2019 17:44

I'd only date a GC man. Any gender nonsense and any date would be waved goodbye sharpish. I don't have time for that nonsense.
I'd be friends with either male or female GC people though. I ended a friendship with one friend who believed that TWAW. An intelligent woman too and someone I'd known a long time.

Apollo440 · 30/06/2019 17:58

DFO with the cis. We don't and will never accept it. Woman are not a subcategory of their own sex class and whilst we will use female pronouns for those that aren't an obvious danger to women (out of courtesy but against reality) your continual attempt to slip in a redefinition of woman unopposed is tiresome.

Lamaha · 30/06/2019 18:02

@Bespin so I asked the equivalent to that part of the first question.

You did not ask the equivalent, as has been pointed out several times.

CandlesOnTheHearth · 30/06/2019 18:21

I would only date someone who was GC.

I have no time for gender bollocks; 'c*s' nonsense or men with with vaginas.

I ended a friendship with one friend who believed that TWAW. An intelligent woman too and someone I'd known a long time.

Same here.

And nearly ended another who, fortunately, did a bit of reading around on the topic and now denies they were ever anything other than GC Grin

R0wantrees · 30/06/2019 18:36

You used the term 'cis' on page 6, and you refuse to accept the definition of 'lesbian'. You've tried to redefine feminism as well.

Not respecting women's boundaries eh?

That should always be seen as a red flag in any relationship.
As is often said on FWR & the Relationships board, its always important to watch how males respond when told 'no'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3452784-Coercive-Control-a-need-for-better-awareness

AlwaysComingHome · 30/06/2019 18:48

I used the word cis, it's the opersite to trans you can place it in front of words to infer a meaning to that word like cis membrane or trans membrane. some people using it in relation to people some people don't.

It’s a linguistic sleight of hand based on the misbelief that transwomen are, in fact, a type of woman.

Since they are not, there’s no need to prefix women. Women aren’t a type of woman.

AlwaysComingHome · 30/06/2019 18:51

if it was goady it would have sunk or been removed.

Like your very next message.

SaskiaRembrandt · 30/06/2019 19:21

MephistophelesApprentice oh no, I was agreeing with you, but did it badly. Sorry about that. What I meant was that there is this idea that only older, prudish people would be GC, when in reality, those who were young in '80s and '90s or earlier, are on the whole far less likely to be. Meanwhile, the non-GC seem to want to return us to some kind of horrible 1950s scenario in which gender roles, particularly for women, are far more rigorously defined and enforced - and that includes the adoption of prudish attitudes.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 30/06/2019 19:26

do you know what I like? paragraphs

gosh, I just love them. they aid clarity so much

and that's really all I've got to say about this thread

DtPeabodysLoosePants · 30/06/2019 19:48

I take it OP is a man? I've never heard a woman on mumsnet try to redefine woman, or feminism. I've read threads where the woke women tie themselves in terrible knots trying to show that TWAW and that woman is a fluid concept and blah blah blah until they lose any credibility as it's just absolute tosh. But ime only a man who have the arrogance to try to redefine women or feminism.

CandlesOnTheHearth · 30/06/2019 19:52

I take it OP is a man?

I might he wrong, and happy to be corrected if I am, but I believe the OP identifies as a woman.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 30/06/2019 19:58

I might he wrong, and happy to be corrected if I am, but I believe the OP identifies as a woman.

Yes, Bespin identifies as a woman.

R0wantrees · 30/06/2019 20:15

I often miss thebewildeness on Sundays.
In fond recognition, Rules of Misogyny

(extracts)
2nd rule of misogyny: Women saying no to men is a hate crime.

3rd rule of misogyny: Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.

5th rule of misogyny: WATM! Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.

8th rule of misogyny: Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.

9th rule of misogyny: Men always know the "real reasons" for everything women do and say

11th rule of misogyny: Basic pattern recognition skills are cruel and evil when they hurt men's feelings.

www.reddit.com/r/Gender_Critical/comments/6kkeni/the_rules_of_misogyny/

DtPeabodysLoosePants · 30/06/2019 21:09

Curious

KatvonHostileExtremist · 30/06/2019 21:11

Can you imagine dating someone that didn't know the difference between a woman and a man. Could get really confusing. I'll stick to GC and I'll be delighted to be rejected because I'm GC.

I'm honest and truthful, if someone finds like unattractive that's fine by me.

Voice0fReason · 30/06/2019 21:40

I have dared to post a reasonable question on an open forum.
And what have you learnt from the answers?

I could ask it on a trans forum and I'm sure the answer would be very different.
The difference being that transpeople want to date non-transpeople.
Most non-transpeople don't want to date a transperson.
If the answers on a trans forum were that they wouldn't want to date a GC person - that's absolutely fine, we are clearly not suited!

BatShite · 30/06/2019 21:43

Erm, I am another who does not quite see how this is 'the opposite' of asking if people would date a transperson? Though it seems OP has claimed this is not what they meant, despite saying multiple times in the thread that this is the opposite. A little confusing really Hmm

Yes, I would date a GC person, I would never be able to date someone who believed in gender ideology, would cause too many arguments plus a lot of those who follow that religion tend to get very melodramatic, and I am not sure I could deal with being accused of literally killing people each time I said I cared about womens rights.

Boom25 · 30/06/2019 22:19

Why hasnt the OP been deleted/banned for use of the offensive c term, as promised by MNHQ recently? I am offended and yes, tbh, it is starting to get a bit triggering and reminds me how crazy the world is going, which is stopping me sleeping.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 30/06/2019 22:30

Interesting isnt it boom

Especially when its a poster who has been told numerous times that other posters don't like it and continues to use it...

Bespin · 30/06/2019 22:31

I have leant that GC people will date another GC person. that people on here really don't like people asking questions they don't like, and will go out of there way to demonstrate why that person is wrong for just asking a question.

because I never said the question was opersite it is equivalent as all questions of this type are.

That the typical people come on here saying the same things and using the same cut and past lines about a question that should have really been seeen as a bit of a joke question in reality. but because people think it's so importent to knock anyone with a different view point then we are 10 pages in.

also using a word in its correct scientific meaning is not banable. but misgendering is reportable. so please be respectful.

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