would you date someone who is gender critical?

[Bespin]

Seeing as there is a would you date a trans person thread for proper balance I'm sure you will be happy with a would you date a gender critical person. I know we could ask for every other characteristic that people do and do not find attractive, and then we can judge people by there answers. But no one needs to date anyone they are not attracted too.

So my answer is I'd probably be attracted to them but over time if there views were such that they impacted on me negatively then that would be a massive turn off.

also morning to all our American friends 😊

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Idk. In any case, the original thread didn't ask that question, it quoted an article and a survey where a thousand people were asked that question and 87% said no they wouldn't.
Sexual orientation matters, even in countries like Canada where the ruling ideology says it shouldn't.

www.westernjournal.com/study-claims-transgenders-suffering-straight-people-arent-dating/

www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/inclusive-insight/201906/are-trans-people-excluded-the-world-dating

I know it was a quote but people still on the tread answered the question. so I asked another one no one had to answer it. but people can not resist on here can they. lol

And there it is. thank you.

your more than welcome, I'm sorry we have to spend our time on such things, just been reading the abortion thread it's heart breaking.

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Im so close to losing the reputation ive worked so hard for on mumsnet

it's really not worth it rufus, let's call it a night some threads are more importent. night night.

sigh, the c word isnt a scientific term when used to describe people. It is when you say cis or trans isomer (on the same side of, on the other side of), but not because some activists appropriated it to put down biological women and pretend that TWAW.

I always wondered if they'd thought that through tbh. Anyone with any scientific training immediately sees it as trans women being "on the other side form or across from" women, which isnt quite the TWAW message really is it?

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I dont think there was any thought at all

that people on here really don't like people asking questions they don't like, and will go out of there way to demonstrate why that person is wrong for just asking a question.

Not arsed about any question, but fail to see how it seems to be such a problem to point out that..well the qyestion is very different, as are the circumstances. When you have GC people making out they will kill themselves as some people do not want to shag them, then maybe its kind of similar.

Not saying you are wrong either for asking, just a little confused as to how you reckon this is the reverse of the other question (and if you dislike people answering that, maybe you should not have posted multiple times on the thread that you meant GC is the opposite of trans) and then take offense when people read the words you write.

Have also never copied and pasted replies on any thread. I think you might find, that its certainly not GC feminists who just copy paste the same bullshit all over, thats pretty much just one sided too.

I stay as I occasionally like to challenge the views held on here

I don't think the challenge is going well Bespin

‘Cis’ is a scientific sounding word that sounds clever to people who also think putting ‘quantum’ in front of something grants homeopathy scientific rigour. It’s cargo cult science.

using a word [cis] in its correct scientific meaning is not ban-able

Correct according to whom? According to the same (mostly) white, racist, linguistic imperialists who are constantly telling us that white (males) are women “just like Black women are women!” FOH.

And IDGAF that the word is derived from Latin. Why would I? The n-word derives from Latin too. I reject them both. People are allowed to reject shitty labels - even ones in the dictionary. Fancy that.

... but Misgendering is reportable

Calling someone cs when they are not is* misgendering them. You are imbuing them with a gender ID, which they do not have.

(To clarify - I don’t think c*s should be banned on MN, nor would I report anyone who called me that - I’d just tell them to FO.)

I will say this for the stupid. They are persistent. Look for the silver lining, eh?

I’ve C word is an insult. Why not just call women ‘not dogs’ or ‘not trees’. A woman is a woman - they just are. No additional words needed to take them a step away from the word that some people just want to have all for themselves.

If the answers on a trans forum were that they wouldn't want to date a GC person - that's absolutely fine, we are clearly not suited!

Yes: the opposite question would be !
"would you date a non-trans person", posted on a trans forum.

I am perfectly happy, as a GC person, to be rejected by a transperson!

...plus a lot of those who follow that religion tend to get very melodramatic, and I am not sure I could deal with being accused of literally killing people each time I said I cared about womens rights.

^this. I like a balanced, smooth relationship which doesn't focus one one person's needs for validation. I do best with internally confident people who don't need to be pampered and comforted and reassured that they are worthy of love .

I used to be a social worker and I'm fine doing this sort of thing as a job. But not in my personal relationships.

Not everyone on mums net is gender critical and some might find it a turn off. but if we are asking if people want to date trans people then. We can also ask the opersite

It's not the opposite at all. Being GC is not the opposite of being trans. The opposite of being trans is being not trans (i.e. identifying as being the sex you were born as).

Being GC is not about what sex you are. It's an opinion or belief. Of course people can choose or reject partners because they have incompatible beliefs, but that is not equivalent to being inherently unattracted to someone because they are not of the biological sex that your sexuality makes you attracted to. Not least because opinions and beliefs can change over time, unlike biological sex.

t's not the opposite at all. Being GC is not the opposite of being trans. The opposite of being trans is being not trans

Absolutely...that was the point of most of the posts

And it cant just be two trans and cis anyway

What about non binary or gender free or any of the other gender things there seem to be...

Those people aren’t cis or trans

So the question Should have been...would you date a non trans person

But that really wouldn’t have worked

I know it was a quote but people still on the tread answered the question. so I asked another one no one had to answer it. but people can not resist on here can they. lol

Oh I enjoyed thinking about it, it's only goady if it bothers people, and why would it bother us? 🤯🤷‍♀️

I think it’s important to be clear that the things that some of the people who identify as trans do to their bodies will make them less attractive as partners to many people. For example taking hormones or having surgery that leaves them sexually dysfunctional

I am not interested in trying to prevent adults from doing these things to themselves, but they should do it with their eyes open. The medical profession should be counselling them better.

The point being that being GC won’t mean you are likely to have modified your body in a way that will make you less attractive to many people

I still wouldn't date a narc!

I still wouldn't date a narc!

Me neither Lang. Been there, done that.