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Bizarre Snopes article about JK Rowling

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Mermoose · 28/06/2019 14:06

www.snopes.com/fact-check/jk-rowling-transphobia-transgender/

Snopes have written an article which, to be fair, does say that the claim on a Medium post that JK Rowling has 'confirmed her antipathy towards trans women' is false. But then it goes on to say that, on the other hand,

"Rowling has never articulated solidarity for trans people or support for trans rights or trans inclusion. A search of Rowling’s Twitter feed showed that she had never once used any of the following terms: “trans,” “transgender,” “LGBT,” “LGBTQ,” “transphobia,” “transphobe,” “transphobic,” “TERF,” “inclusion,” or “exclusion.” Though they are not necessarily indicative of her views, and certainly not definitive proof, these absences are certainly worth noting."

So Ms Rowling. We've noticed that you've never done any witch-hunting. Which is suspicious. Highly suspicious.

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DuchessSybilVimes · 28/06/2019 14:10

Fucking bizarre.

So, not doing anything "wrong" isn't enough? You have to publicly condemn "wrongness" in others?!

Ah well, JK is of a literary bent. Perhaps she will enjoy the parallels with The Crucible.

DickKerrLadies · 28/06/2019 14:26

And this is what passes for 'fact-checking' these days?

OvaHere · 28/06/2019 14:29

We really are back in a Stasi era.

ILiketheNiceCereal · 28/06/2019 14:31

Snopes: Woke as Hell

NottonightJosepheen · 28/06/2019 14:41

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HorsewithnoPissToTake · 28/06/2019 14:47

Creepy AF.

RubberTreePlant · 28/06/2019 14:53

Well that's Snopes intent on throwing its impartiality away with both hands.

A partial Snopes is - what- a random website? Fools.

CharlieParley · 28/06/2019 15:07

Where I grew up, a lack of ideology-affirming statements was a perfectly legitimate line of attack against a suspected subversive. Could get you persecuted. Of course, I grew up in a totalitarian state. So what do I know...

Lawlsie1976 · 28/06/2019 15:13

Has anyone read Lethal White? One of the female characters is said to identify as pansexual but is a very drippy person only ever seen hanging around her woke boyfriend.

I think Ms. Rowling is taking the piss. Wonder if any of The Woke have ever read any of her books? She's very down on bullying and tyranny of any kind.

MockerstheFeManist · 28/06/2019 15:17

I do not believe I have ever publicly condemned biting the heads off babies.

Should I hand myself in?

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 28/06/2019 15:39

I read a book some some ago about China under Mao

This sort of thing happened A LOT!!

NeurotrashWarrior · 29/06/2019 08:04

We really are back in a Stasi era.

Completely.

Bizarre Snopes article about JK Rowling
Dervel · 29/06/2019 08:32

To be fair I have seen rhetoric along the lines that men who aren’t say challenging things like rape jokes/ locker room talk/ general misogyny are therefore condoning them, complicit and part of the problem and propping up the patriarchy.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 29/06/2019 08:42

Does anyone remember when some idiot accused Julie Bindel of not caring about women in prison, based on a Twitter search?

DpWm · 29/06/2019 08:46

Feminists aren't raping anyone Confused.

Genderists appropriate feminist arguments with words like "oppression" etc and distort the meaning of words beyond recognition in order to convey a false reality. It's what they do.

DpWm · 29/06/2019 08:48

^replying to Dervel

BeUpStanding · 29/06/2019 08:52

Empress that was the intellectual heavyweight Ash Sarkar. She who believes in luxury communism and fucks like a champion (her words, twitter bio). She also described herself as Germaine Greer's equal, on the basis that they were both writers iirc

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 29/06/2019 08:55

I read a book some some ago about China under Mao

Also read about ......Stalin's Russia.

FannyCann · 29/06/2019 09:11

Oh dear. Now she's following Julie Bindel and Fionne. Grin

Bizarre Snopes article about JK Rowling
DuchessSybilVimes · 29/06/2019 09:14

FUCKING YESSSSSS, JK!! Grin

DpWm · 29/06/2019 09:21

I read a book some some ago about China under Mao

Also read about ......Stalin's Russia.

This is all Corbyn's fault.

Dervel · 29/06/2019 09:31

@DpWm I don’t think that entirely addresses my point, I didn’t really
see a problem with identity politics until this trans thing has blown up in quite the way that it has. It is making me aware of problems baked into the way we have been discussing (or not allowing to be discussed) a whole range of issues ranging from sex, gender, race, religion, those with disabilities etc.

What I am observing are pockets in society namely academia, politics and the media where a postmodernist lens is applied and group think is beginning to trump individual freedom in the classically liberal sense of the word.

I’m not coming at this from an anti-trans or even and anti-feminist perspective necessarily, and I’m still not 100% clear what I am on about yet but I am beginning to formulate a view that the way we have entertained certain subjects whilst maybe coming from a well meaning place has led us into some very dark places and times.

yulet · 29/06/2019 09:35

Wow, that's almost a war cry from her isn't it? Good for her.

They're shitty, nasty bullies who won't stop even if she religiously chanted their slogans for the rest of her life now.

DuchessSybilVimes · 29/06/2019 10:21

They're shitty, nasty bullies exactly.

And we know from HP she doesn't like bullies. She did burn one of them alive in the final book, after all.

Bufferingkisses · 29/06/2019 11:58

It seems like they are coming to get her. This article is quite something and is being shared on LGBTQ sites all over the place. It actually shocked me (I know I should be unshockable by now)

www.themarysue.com/jk-rowling-transphobic-follows/?fbclid=IwAR2Or_CWpIPnEvaD2wGypO9qN_kd1jmI-RyoQuVwVkhhnn-Nptupt11JovU