transgender hate crime

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48756370

Transgender hate crime up by 81%

I thought someone else would have posted this as it's practically headline on BBC.

This is sad. Nobody should be being abused.

I'm afraid I take this about as seriously as I take the endlessly wheeled out 'suicide stats' that have been repeatedly debunked.

Most of this will be being shouted at in the street (women everywhere deal with this daily and don't get any sympathy or recourse, you wanted into womanhood, suck it up buttercup) and the petty stuff like 'misgendering' and 'dead naming' and 'posting on MN' and 'writing articles that hurt my feelings'. If a trans person was removed from sitting peacefully on a chair, or punched for standing at speaker's corner in possession of opinions, or actually assaulted on the bus like those poor lesbian couples, it would be front page news and the TRAs would go to town on it.

The law is ridiculous and this paying people to rush around gathering meaningless information to care more about this group than any other group in society who would never get half the public attention, just makes a public figure of fun of the police. Not to mention trains the general public to take trans people less and less seriously. You'd think they'd be concerned about that bit.

You also have to factor in the massive increase in the number of people identifying as transgender. If ‘transphobic’ hate crimes have gone up 81% while the number of girls referred to Tavistock in the last few years has gone up 2,000% (and who knows what it is for boys) then the proportion of trans people being subject to transphobia, however loosely you define it, has gone down.

Wasn't it just last week that a certain Labour figure defined someone rejecting their sexual advances as a hate crime?

And as well as a break down of what the actual crimes are, I'd also like a breakdown of how many were multiple reports made by the same individual.

If transwomen ARE women, shouldn't crimes against them be reported as crimes against women, just as crimes perpetrated by them?

If TWAW crimes against them should be minimised, ignored, dropped by CPS and generally not taken seriously. It's almost like there's a difference between women and TW.

And an actually oppressed group, as opposed to a group with a lot of oppression corporate branding, doesn't get taken seriously by or represented properly in law. Crimes against them are seen as kind of ok, if not justifiable/deserved in some cases, because they're not a group valued or cared about and seen as lesser beings.

So that would be women then.

Quite.

I also wonder how many women have reported repeated abuse and been classed as vulnerable by police? How many women have been assaulted and had abuse screamed at them by random men?
Virtually every single woman I know. And yet we can't report those incidents because abusing women simply for being a woman is not a hate crime
This is actually annoying the shit out of me now. This year, despite me being old and generally invisible I have been groped three times, and have altered my whole fucking life to avoid a pub at certain times so I dont get yelled at. I tried ignoring and that didnt work so now I avoid going anywhere near it after probably a hundred incidents last year.
Can you imagine if I called the police about either issue (we aren't even going into the stuff yelled at me from moving cars) what would the police even say to me? Probably avoid the pub. It wouldn't go down as a hate incident cos I'm just a bloody woman. Inconvenient eh. Maybe I should identify as a trans woman then they might do shit

Jeez. I see from those tweets there's a new abusive name to call women who dare to point out the Emperor is stark bollock naked. I swear it's like trying to have this debate in a toddler group. Rage, flying biscuits, tears and screams of poo poo head abound.

Can you imagine if I called the police about either issue (we aren't even going into the stuff yelled at me from moving cars) what would the police even say to me? Probably avoid the pub. It wouldn't go down as a hate incident cos I'm just a bloody woman. Inconvenient eh. Maybe I should identify as a trans woman then they might do shit
You may be genderfree - which means you are transgender according to Stonewall definitions.
You are being targeted because your 'gender expression' agrees with your 'gender assigned at birth'. If your gender expression was more masculine and you looked and acted more man-like you would not have been abused in this way. Therefore a transgender identity hate incident.

Good point, TigerCubScout