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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NSPCC at Pride

127 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 26/06/2019 10:05

Good grief, the grovelling begins

prideinlondon.org/news-and-views/statement-on-nspccs-participation-in-the-parade/

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 27/06/2019 21:10

Still can't see any update on NSPCC twitter or NSPCC website or Stonewall twitter...So all we have so far is that statement from stonewall but nothing else.

MockerstheFeManist · 27/06/2019 21:22

The Queen's uncles Nazi Dave and Prince George the Junkie were both up to all sorts, back in the day.

BiologyMatters · 27/06/2019 22:33

Establishing a dialogue with LGBT+ organisations such as Stonewall to understand how best to heal the pain caused to staff as well as build bridges with the community

Fucking hell get over yourselves! "Heal the pain" indeed!

Juells · 27/06/2019 22:40

@twicemummy1
The parents said they would have fought the charity's intervention had they been given all the facts. Children's charities behave a bit like vultures.

I saw a programme recently that made me go Hmm

www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/the_boy_in_the_photo
His relatives were still in the area, searching for him.

Apollo440 · 27/06/2019 22:43

Well of course they've made up. They want the NSPCC's acquiescence in transing children.
I'm sure they'll swallow the whole born in the wrong body, affirmative treatment, access to puberty blockers shit show.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 27/06/2019 22:46

Well of course they've made up. They want the NSPCC's acquiescence in transing children.

Juells · 27/06/2019 22:47

Fucking hell get over yourselves! "Heal the pain" indeed!

I know, the fucking drama and posturing would be hilarious if it wasn't for how frightening it is that it's being pandered to by an organisation like the NSPCC.

ChickenonaMug · 27/06/2019 23:39

The main concern of all the staff at the NSPCC should be to prevent and heal the pain of vulnerable, abused children.

The NSPCC do of course have a duty of care to it's staff and I am quite sure that some of them feel distressed with some of the things that children report to them.

How can the pain caused by the NSPCC (eventually) making an appropriate safeguarding decision possibly be considered significant enough to warrant the NSPCC's grovelling, when compared to the pain of abused children or indeed the pain of the staff who have to listen to those children explaining what they have been subjected too.

OccasionalKite · 28/06/2019 00:08

FFS. Just read the original Pride statement, as posted in OP:
prideinlondon.org/news-and-views/statement-on-nspccs-participation-in-the-parade/

There is no mention of children at all in that statement. It is all about pandering to the feelings of men, males.

This is supposed to be the foremost UK children's protection charity, and yet it gives priority to males and male sexual expression.

This should not be allowed to persist.

We need child safeguarding systems that actually safeguard children, not the NSPCC prioritising male sexual kinks.

The NSPCC actually needs to protect vulnerable children, not men in rubber with obsessions involving wanking at work and filming themselves.

MrsJamin · 29/06/2019 07:50

So are they going to be there today? Given the tweets from the NSPCC not being clear whether they are bahind the statements on prides website? Is anyone going to try and see the NSPCC stand?

Juells · 29/06/2019 08:04

When a children's charity grovels and apologises and promises to mend its ways in order to be allowed take part in a parade involving so muck kink, they've lost the plot.

Juells · 29/06/2019 08:05

much not muck. (though muck is appropriate)

2BthatUnnoticed · 29/06/2019 10:47

Thanks @MoleSmokes of course, that makes sense. Agree - it does seem very young to be discussing whether your children might be LBGT! Incidentally I believe he only referenced the possibility of them being L or G, but the press reported it as L, G or T.

I believe Prince Charles was close to Jimmy Savile at one stage, hopefully they vet these things very carefully these days.

MrsJamin · 29/06/2019 12:10

Ah I thought it was London pride today, when it is in a week's time.

2BthatUnnoticed · 29/06/2019 12:14

After that grovelling apology, it’s no surprise the NSPCC was A-ok with this boy performing in this way.

NSPCC at Pride
Eaudear · 29/06/2019 12:22

Yes, what is with all this 'heal the pain' crap? The NSPCC is a children's charity, dealing with children who are going through/been through unimaginable things, and safeguarding other children to stop those things happening to them.

The charity does not exist simply to validate its adult staff. Why does it feel like that is becoming their main priority?

When a children's charity grovels and apologises and promises to mend its ways in order to be allowed take part in a parade involving so muck kink, they've lost the plot.

This.

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Needmoresleep · 29/06/2019 13:38

The Mail has an article today about the RSPCA which suggests a similar sort of capture, this time by animal rights activists. Moves to centralise decision making to reduce input from ordinary volunteers working in regional shelters, and the pushing of a more radical agenda, likely to bring them in conflict with middle England donors and Patrons, including Royals who like their horse racing.

I have no specific interest in animal welfare, but find the way in which organisations across the charity sector seem to be losing sight of their founding objectives, really depressing. Its as if they exist for those that work there, rather than the supposed beneficiaries.

ZebrasAreBras · 29/06/2019 13:50

Charities are big business now.

Its as if they exist for those that work there, rather than the supposed beneficiaries.

Yes - as demonstrated by the NSPCC apologising to their staff as well as to Bergdorf. Both of whom seem to be made centre stage in their offence on behalf of the LGBT community - and the children, and the basic safeguarding principles of the NSPCC seem to be...nowhere at all. Forgotten.

DanaPhoenix · 29/06/2019 14:01

There will be no action taken against Rubberman. They will just hope everyone will forget about it.

Juells · 29/06/2019 14:20

The Mail has an article today about the RSPCA which suggests a similar sort of capture, this time by animal rights activists. Moves to centralise decision making to reduce input from ordinary volunteers working in regional shelters, and the pushing of a more radical agenda, likely to bring them in conflict with middle England donors and Patrons, including Royals who like their horse racing.

hmmmmnnnnnn.... you might also say that they shouldn't have patrons involved in horse racing, or pig farming, or greyhound racing, or anything like that. Just because something is popular with the upper classes doesn't mean it gets a free pass. I don't see that the two things are comparable.

Juells · 29/06/2019 14:24

@Needmoresleep posted too soon, and do agree with you. Meant to say that with both the RSPCA and the Irish equivalent, they appear to have lost touch with what they should be doing. It's all about careers. Volunteer charities seem to be the only ones now who actually work on the ground rescuing animals, with no salaried staff, all people doing it because they love animals.

Needmoresleep · 29/06/2019 14:25

But its not about 'right' but who controls the agenda and how.

The TWAW brigade are convinced they are right. So entitled to set the agenda within the NSPCC. No need to listen to MN FWR.

Animal rights campaigners will be convinced they are right. So entitled to set the agenda within the RSPCA. No need to listen to pedigree dog breeders or race horse owners.

Needmoresleep · 29/06/2019 14:26

Ah I was arguing with your truncated post!

Needmoresleep · 29/06/2019 14:38

The Mail is sort of the go-to newspaper on this. Good articles on the National Trust management out of step with rank and file volunteers and middle England visitors.(There was some sort of fuss about rainbow lanyards or similar a couple of years back.) And a good, critical, article a few months ago about the way the RNLI is run.

It gives me a level of unease which I have not quite come to terms with. I hear what they say, and am inclined to believe them. However my idea of hell would be a visit to a stately home with my MiL. (I think she is a volunteer, and certainly their gift shops are a good source of MiL presents.) So DM bluster about threats to middle England leave me a bit cold.

Yet...woke capture of aid charities, womens aid shelters, the Girl Guides, the NSPCC and more...Stonewall!?...is bloody dangerous. And the process is totalitarian.

We need to stop it. All hail the Daily Mail Confused