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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NSPCC at Pride

127 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 26/06/2019 10:05

Good grief, the grovelling begins

prideinlondon.org/news-and-views/statement-on-nspccs-participation-in-the-parade/

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AlwaysComingHome · 26/06/2019 15:49

They have raised trans on to a pedestal and decided that trans can never be subject to the same scrutiny and laws as the rest of society.

Quite. I’m starting to feel like the trans issue is so last year and the battle has already moved on to kink.

FlyingOink · 26/06/2019 15:51

And it’s worth stressing that it’s gender questioning children in particular who are put at risk by Bergdorf’s lack of care for safeguarding
It's clear that gender-questioning children are just the collateral damage in the quest for autogynephilic men to indulge their fantasies

Michelleoftheresistance · 26/06/2019 15:54

I think it's way too late to get a grip now, they're fatally compromised. The only thing they could do now is to phoenix it: end the NSPCC, admit the mistakes and start a new organisation from scratch from the ashes. What will actually happen is this will seep more and more into public view and get worse until it becomes evident that the NSPCC is now a political trans lobby group using their position of trust and access to further the political interests of that lobby. And then there'll be a very messy scandal and inquiries and egg on faces all over the place, but by that point the government will be knee deep in trans related scandals and massive insurance pay outs.

We have the documented evidence here and will be repeatedly able to evidence 'we told you'. And told you. And told you. And told you.

JackyHolyoake · 26/06/2019 16:04

The only people who can remedy this situation are those within the "LGBT Community" themselves .. to ensure absolute separation of NSPCC [for children] with Pride [for adults].

Those within the "LGBT Community" who understand why such separation is required need to speak up now.

LangCleg · 26/06/2019 16:04

Quite. I’m starting to feel like the trans issue is so last year and the battle has already moved on to kink.

You're not alone. The childhood-destroying march of queer theory continues apace.

Janie143 · 26/06/2019 16:06

www.nspcc.org.uk/what-we-do/news-opinion/munroe-bergdorf/ The intended audience for this grovelling apology also seems a bit off

JackyHolyoake · 26/06/2019 16:08

Oops!

"to ensure absolute separation of NSPCC [for children] from Pride [for adults].

Needmoresleep · 26/06/2019 16:23

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7182765/amp/Prince-William-smiles-arrives-LGBTQ-youth-homelessness-charity-London.html

Perhaps interesting in this context. The first time the Royals have visited a specifically LGBT charity. However from the report the charity works with lesbian and gay young peole. No mention of trans.

Suggests there are charities out there who have stuck to their original remits and who have not become entranced by the T. And that Prince William's advisors are astute enought to steer him in their direction.

Something NSPCC might note.

OvaHere · 26/06/2019 16:32

Talking of Prince William I did wonder when it was reported the other week that him and Kate have split from the charitable trust they started with Harry and Megan whether it was in anyway related to the latter's support of Mermaids.

Pure speculation but it was shortly after the data scandal I recall.

JackyHolyoake · 26/06/2019 16:37

Scroll down this page: European Network of Migrant Women (ENoMW

www.facebook.com/pg/migrantwomeneurope/posts/?ref=page_internal

and read: CHILD PROTECTION CHARITIES & SEXUAL ABUSE

JustTheOneTime · 26/06/2019 16:39

We have the documented evidence here and will be repeatedly able to evidence 'we told you'. And told you. And told you. And told you.

On this, if you have any old threads in Watching, click through and check all is present and correct. Then screenshot or make PDFs.

MN had a tidy-up recently, resulting in threads being stripped of content.

Imnobody4 · 26/06/2019 16:44

Not much to add except screams of frustration. NSPCC's very core purpose is to protect children from predators and groomers in LBGT + community, just as vigorously as those in other communities. I thought we'd got past this cultural relativism where child protection is concerned.

R0wantrees · 26/06/2019 16:44

Perhaps interesting in this context. The first time the Royals have visited a specifically LGBT charity. However from the report the charity works with lesbian and gay young peole. No mention of trans.

Suggests there are charities out there who have stuck to their original remits and who have not become entranced by the T

From the website the Albert Kennedy Trust charity has been inclusive in supporting young people who are bisexual identify as transgender as well as Queer+

www.akt.org.uk/our-history

They have recently rebraded:
"What is the new akt strap line?
The new strap line is ‘safe homes and better futures for lgbtq+ young people’, which has changed from ‘preventing lgbtq+ youth homelessness’."
www.akt.org.uk/News/akt-brand

aliasundercover · 26/06/2019 17:39

the NSPCC is now a political trans lobby group using their position of trust and access to further the political interests of that lobby

The NSPCC has long since fallen, the TRA are moving on to places like the Fire Brigade now. Still targeting kids, though.

HumberElla · 26/06/2019 17:45

As a homo, when I did I suddenly get rich, powerful and influential? And my peers? Nope.We would never have seen this level of pandering prior to the influx of AGP-bucks

It pains me to think of the years of slow progress towards LGB rights. And look at where the L stands now in the power dynamic. It’s clearly all about the T because T =$$$

The new strap line is ‘safe homes and better futures for lgbtq+ young people’, which has changed from ‘preventing lgbtq+ youth homelessness’

And the cynic in me thinks this is mission creep and is also about access to the bucks, aligning agendas and broadening focus.

twicemummy1 · 26/06/2019 18:13

Slightly off topic but I want to mention it because it has been bothering me since I heard about it. I watched on the news about how some western charity went to a place of natural disaster, scooped up all the children, leading the parents to believe they would be returned at a later date, and they never ever were. The parents said they would have fought the charity's intervention had they been given all the facts. Children's charities behave a bit like vultures.

nauticant · 26/06/2019 18:48

Children's charities behave a bit like vultures.

You're not wrong:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cswf64

Vulnerable families are targeted, pressured to give up their children, and the children are forced into orphanages, where they can serve as an income stream funded by Western charities. The orphan farmers in Africa have a nice earner and the Western charities have a great fake media story to use in raising more cash in the West. The Western charities keep themselves in the dark meaning they can deny ever knowing that any kind of scandal was happening.

ZebrasAreBras · 26/06/2019 18:52

That's horrible, twicemummy. What is happening to our charities?? Too corporate, too PR, too large, v little accountability, and obviously a magnet for those...who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near vulnerable women and children.

Michelleoftheresistance · 26/06/2019 19:19

T=$$$

Yes. When you compare it to what BAME, women, disabled people, working class people, children and LGB have managed to gain in decades and decades of fighting and fighting, it's amazing what a group of mostly white, able bodied, straight, affluent, educated male born people have managed to gain in a few years.

twicemummy1 · 26/06/2019 19:25

@nauticant
Yes it really gave me chills. The savior westerners grabbing children from impoverished families in developing countries under the guise of charitable work.
It was the patriarchal reversal that upset me. They're supposed to be doing the good and right thing by children but they're not

MoleSmokes · 27/06/2019 02:05

@JackyHolyoake that Facebook post by the Migrant Women's Network (?) is a brilliant but horrifying summary of recent child abuse cases by men high up in charities supposedly helping children. Staggering that the trans activists are out in force whinging at length about Bergdorf being misgendered but the Migrant Women's Network having none of it "you think that is more important than children being raped?"

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2681478111922650&id=124436980960122

This NSPCC thing is unreal if the Board have actually agreed to that list of demands by Pride London! The NSPCC should be telling Pride London that it will have nothing more to do with it until Pride cleans up its act - because it's not a safe place for children now that sexual fetishists are invited to run play areas for kids of all ages. The NSPCC should be advising families to boycott Pride, not sending their directors down there to grovel for forgiveness.

If this doesn't beg for "Questions in The House" I don't know what does. Any other children's charity would be bad but the NSPCC, with Statutory Powers??? It's unreal!

MoleSmokes · 27/06/2019 02:26

Just had a thought . . . the news blackout on the NSPCC rubber-wanker . . . at the time I was thinking, complete silence by MSM usually means there's either a national security issue or some really serious royal angle kept under wraps . . . and what other very public back-patting has been going on out of the blue today?

Might be 2+2=5 but it semis VERY odd that we've been told all the papers know about NSPCC wanker-man but they are all keeping mum, as it were!

2BthatUnnoticed · 27/06/2019 05:34

Mole you’ve lost me - spill the beans please Smile

twicemummy1 · 27/06/2019 12:08

@MoleSmokes

That they have statutory powers is terrifying. Mothers have to deal with misogyny from professionals anyway, but now we know mothers are also being judged on whether they can keep their children, by people who shouldn't even be around children.

MoleSmokes · 27/06/2019 13:08

@2BthatUnnoticed I was thinking of this - the kids in question are age four, three and one:

"So Catherine and I have been doing a lot of talking about it to make sure they were prepared. I think communication is so important with everything, in order to help understand it you've got to talk a lot about stuff and make sure how to support each other and how to go through the process'."

The "IT" in that statement is supposedly "the possibility that one of our children is gay" though what the "process" referred to consists of is anyone's guess?

Presumably there is no vellum scroll for her maj to unwind and read from as a declaration that one's royal relative is gay - although it would be well worn by now if there was one.

It seems very odd to me that mummy and daddy would be discussing with kids so young the "process" of coming out as gay. Maybe one of the nippers has been playing with the wrong toys and they are about to be sacrificed on the alter of transiness??

Going back to the NSPCC news blackout - national security or a serious royal connection are usually the only reasons that none of the MSM break ranks.

It would be a pretty long list detailing all the dodgy connections between various living royals and manifestations of kink, queer and paedophilia over the years. Although even just officially coming out as gay is probably still considered earth shattering. Got to be more to it than that though surely?

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7182765/amp/Prince-William-smiles-arrives-LGBTQ-youth-homelessness-charity-London.html