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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Drag Queen story time and The National Gallery

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NellieEllie · 25/06/2019 22:50

Just spotted this. 30th June. The “gender fluidity of childhood”. Giving children “queer role models”. Good Grief. www.nationalgallery.org.uk/events/drag-queen-story-time-30-06-2019

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VickyEadie · 07/08/2019 17:56

I wouldn’t take children to pride either.

Certainly not now Pride parades contain bizarrely-dressed fetishists and men displaying highly sexualised behaviour.

Propertyofhood · 07/08/2019 18:00

What has the 'who started Pride' debate got to do with not exposing kids to men who feel the need to sexualise everything?

SophoclesTheFox · 07/08/2019 18:00

Drag emphasizes the power in femininity and female sexuality

Why would this be for children, then?

Sexualised content is not for children.

And your quotation from a service aimed at adolescents is again, not for children. Adolescents don’t generally like having stories read to them.

As for drag being “what female beauty is meant to look like”, you’ve kind of illustrated the feminist objection to it right there by suggesting that men are better at womanning than women, or that womanhood lies in the trappings of femininity, or whatever your actual point was there.

I don’t have children, can I still do the required thin lipped screeching, I wonder?

VickyEadie · 07/08/2019 18:02

What has the 'who started Pride' debate got to do with not exposing kids to men who feel the need to sexualise everything?

My point exactly. Is it the 'Jimmy Savile raised millions for charity, he couldn't possibly have been an abuser' argument?

FormerMediocreMale · 07/08/2019 18:06

I find drag offensively misogynist. Positing it as some sort of 'feminist' art is ludicrous - men who perform drag are ridiculing women and they know it.

This and if a few women join in the eidicule and misogyny it doesnt change the fact it is offensive or inappropriate for children.

Butters83 · 07/08/2019 18:10

Because drag has literally nothing to do with grooming. You are hatefully pointing a finger of judgement over an entire group of people. It’s borderline homophobia.

FormerMediocreMale · 07/08/2019 18:15

It’s borderline homophobia

What as sexual orientation got to do with drag? Are you indinuating all drag queens are gay? As THAT would be homophobic.

Anyone involved in or supporting sexualisation of children is showing serious safe guarding red flags.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 07/08/2019 18:16

“We find misogynistic sexualised parodies of women offensive and inappropriate for children”

Butter: “hateful screeching bigoted homophobic thin-lipped white women with snotty children and pitchforks”

VickyEadie · 07/08/2019 18:17

Because drag has literally nothing to do with grooming. You are hatefully pointing a finger of judgement over an entire group of people. It’s borderline homophobia.

Are all drag performers gay? How on earth do you draw that inference?

Pay attenton: sexualised performance is not appropriate for children. Safeguarding tells adults to pay close attention to this and to suspect the motives of any adult seeking to put sexualised content in front of children.

Who started Pride has nothing to do with this and your pathetic attempts to divert the argument away from safeguarding of children won't wash.

Butters83 · 07/08/2019 18:18

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Butters83 · 07/08/2019 18:18

Learn the history of pride and stonewall riots and not your white lady feminism version

FormerMediocreMale · 07/08/2019 18:19

No one is pointing a finger at a whole group of people except you butters - with your white women comments.

Drag as adult entertainment is fine, involving children is not. So as the vast majority of drag queens dont involve children, that vast majority are not being discussed or having any fingers pointed at them.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 07/08/2019 18:19

it's borderline homophobia
And that's silencing right there. Silencing women challenging men eroding children's boundaries and teaching them to twerk.
Shame on you.

EverardDigby · 07/08/2019 18:21

Seriously white feminism is a fucking disease

You don't sound well.

Butters83 · 07/08/2019 18:21

Erm but you are pointing a finger.

Drag queens do not perform sexual acts for children. They read a book.

YOU are the ones sexualising it. Because it’s the trans argument in disguise.

Butters83 · 07/08/2019 18:22

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SophoclesTheFox · 07/08/2019 18:22

I’m not offended, I just think trying to convince people of your point by insulting them is a) weird and b) ineffective.

Drag has been around for donkeys years and I’m more than aware of its place in gay history. That doesn’t make a jot of difference to the fact that I still object to the misogyny and feel that the sexualised content is not, and never was, aimed at children. It’s no more appropriate than taking the, to see an 18 certificate film. There is no requirement for children to understand drag.

Butters83 · 07/08/2019 18:23

Honestly in a way I am relieved that the internet is so accessible because at least there is hope that your children will grow up and learn for themselves rather than inherit your bullshit ideologies.

SophoclesTheFox · 07/08/2019 18:23

I don’t think drag queens are trans.

Take it up with stonewall- they are the ones who included it under the trans umbrella.

Propertyofhood · 07/08/2019 18:24

Because drag has literally nothing to do with grooming. You are hatefully pointing a finger of judgement over an entire group of people. It’s borderline homophobia.

Can you remind us why children need to be read stories by men dressed as female parodies in public libraries? Who benefits from it?

And stop derailing by irrelevantly saying 'white feminism' over and over.

Propertyofhood · 07/08/2019 18:25

Drag queens do not perform sexual acts for children. They read a book.

Why? What for? What's in it for the children?

TurboTeddy · 07/08/2019 18:26

Drag isn't a hypersexual presentatation of womanface and involving children doesn't have any potential for grooming!

Are you sure?

dianebrewster · 07/08/2019 18:26

Fascinating isn't it? To watch it being played out in this thread.

We SEE you, that's what you hate. Wriggle, twist words, screech 'bigot' all you like - it's not going to change the fact that our eyes have been opened and we see you.

TurboTeddy · 07/08/2019 18:27

oops presentation even

Butters83 · 07/08/2019 18:27

Yes I’m sure - thanks for playing. You can go shave your back now.

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