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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Witch by association

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EweSurname · 24/06/2019 08:06

J k Rowling has started to follow Magdalen on twitter which is getting the predictable pushback from some tras.

It’s all so very controlling isn’t it?

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Mermoose · 24/06/2019 08:19

Woo hoo! I knew she was GC (or at least open to hearing both sides of the debate - the horror!).

FloralBunting · 24/06/2019 08:22

Come on JK. Magdalen is solid gold, you'll so get it if you watch her videos.

SunsetBeetch · 24/06/2019 08:24

I hope this is JK's "awww fuck it, damned if I do, damned if I don't" moment.

They never forgave her for accidentally liking a tweet that one time. They never forget, never forgive.

DpWm · 24/06/2019 08:29

Brilliant.
JK has so many followers, the outrage feed from TRAs will hopefully reach a very wide audience and reveal how totally nuts they are.
I hope she doesn't unfollow under pressure.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 24/06/2019 08:30

They hate her anyway. DD2 listens to their bullshit. Anyone would think she was the leader of the Nazi party. I'm not joking.
It's like they set her up as a beacon of purity and when she wasn't 100% exactly like they wanted, they turned on her like a pack.
It really is incredible to witness.

JK fuck them.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 24/06/2019 08:32

Oh and on the topic of witches, I saw this cartoon.

Charming eh?

Witch by association
EweSurname · 24/06/2019 08:34

The pressure has already started - I've seen someone say how this doesn't surprise them given that in the HP books, all the banks are owned by one race Hmm

I hope she stands strong. Given previous reactions to her tweets/likes/follows, she probably knew what following Magdalen Berns would entail (am boggling at the state of affairs that means this sentence is accurate) so hopefully she sticks to her guns.

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Thingybob · 24/06/2019 08:41

JK doesn't appear to be very active on twitter so following Magdalen isn't something new. It just looks like someones gone through a list of who she follows

twitter.com/persenche/status/1142884987458347008

EweSurname · 24/06/2019 08:57

Ah I didn't realise thingybob. I think Magdalen Berns is the last person she followed but I don't actually know when it happened.

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 24/06/2019 09:01

God how tiresome it must be to be subjected to the kind of obsessive scrutiny demonstrated by that last Twitter thread

SunsetBeetch · 24/06/2019 09:04

It's not enough to follow pro trans accounts, either, of course:

@persenche

You have missed the point. Not sure if you've done so willfully. She does not follow trans activists and trans activism organizations. The accounts you've cited are not trans activists. She does follow people whose entire online presence is anti-trans bigotry.

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She follows a lot of them. Disproportionately many of them. And they are not accounts that you could follow and not know what they are. glinner, bindel... these people spew hate non-stop, every day, without a break.

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SunsetBeetch · 24/06/2019 09:05

It's never enough.

Thingybob · 24/06/2019 09:05

It's such a childish, playground mindset..

"I'm not going to be your friend if you are friends with Tom/Dick/Harry"

EweSurname · 24/06/2019 09:22

Sen some suggestions she's done it to curry favour with Mumsnet Grin

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 24/06/2019 09:26

Jk Rowling does not need to follow / unfollow people on Twitter to curry favour with me

Although if she was looking for suggestions, going back and letting the Harry Potter books 4-7 be edited properly would certainly work

Signed, a bed time story reader

HumberElla · 24/06/2019 09:31

The amount of push back by TRA will also be heavier and harder because JKR is a woman.

Women must not be allowed perceived transgressions, however minor and for whatever reason.

EweSurname · 24/06/2019 09:33

Anyone know if James O'Brien was ever called a TERF or transphobe for saying he wouldn't ever be attracted to a woman with a penis?

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DuMondeB · 24/06/2019 09:35

www.them.us/story/is-jk-rowling-transphobic

They’ve been calling her a terf for over a year.

This is the process. You say something (possibly something that used to be considered right on, like ‘Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness and I support people to transition to live healthier lives) and get called a transphobic, so you go off and ‘educate yourself’ as directed.

Several hours/weeks/months down the rabbit hole later you emerge thoroughly as terfy mcterfface. See also: Alison Moyet and Martina Navratilova.

It’s not Mumsnet that radicalises women into terves, it’s transactivism.

All those people who have their pronouns AND their Hogwarts House in their twitter bio will have to choose, eventually.
Tons more former allies will educate themselves, tons more will end up GC.

Juells · 24/06/2019 09:38

She was probably ordered to go and educate herself. That really worked with other high-profile women who had functioning brains Grin

Mumfun · 24/06/2019 09:42

JKR used to be very active on Twitter (and very amusing, worthwhile following) so interesting that she has done very little since March this year. Its ironic that the TRAs will go so nuts about her presence on Twitter at the moment that she has taken a step back (and presumably wont care about the lather that they are getting themselves into)

Mermoose · 24/06/2019 09:49

Mumfun I was wondering if she'd been quiet on Twitter because of the gender debate. Imagine being that high-profile, all your likes and tweets zealously policed, and realising you're GC. I have seen some people say that if less powerful women have risked their jobs and safety to speak up, it should be relatively easy for her to do it. I do see that point, but, the main tactic that's used by the TRAs is the threat of suicide. JK's someone whom a lot of young people would see as an important figure. If she came out as GC, I would not be surprised if she was accused of personally putting kids in danger. It happened to Janice Turner, and she's not someone many kids would even know of. At the same time, I'd say it's as clear to her as anyone the damage this movement is actually doing to kids. So she's probably been stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Juells · 24/06/2019 09:54

Following those people on twitter is a bit of a Fuck You - she could have done what most of the rest of us do, and set up an anonymous account and follow them on that, distance herself.

Juells · 24/06/2019 09:55

Mermoose very good points. She's between a rock and a hard place with all the suicide threats that fly around.

EweSurname · 24/06/2019 10:33

Meghan Murphy and Lionel Shriver had an interesting youtube chat about some of the consequences of speaking out

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EweSurname · 24/06/2019 10:48

Although I don't agree with a lot of what she says about the Me Too movement.

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