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Pup play fans dance for children at Pride

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OrchidInTheSun · 23/06/2019 11:15

How charming!

twitter.com/pupchester/status/1142449770893586432?s=21

When asked if he thought this was suitable entertainment for children before Pride, PupChester said no (see screenshot)

So if Pride is a celebration of fetish, why are our police and town councils supporting it so broadly? Why are we closing streets to parade BDSM fans?

Pup play fans dance for children at Pride
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Victoriapestis01 · 23/06/2019 22:56

As someone else has pointed out, in the photos above (smurfette’s) one of the guys sitting down looks like he’s aroused.(Look at the trouser area.) Maybe he’s not? Maybe he’s a transman? Maybe it’s not a real penis? But either way, shouldn’t the police be looking at that photo? Because it’s really, really worrying.

StealthPolarBear · 23/06/2019 23:03

That is horrifying. He's there in broad daylight in a group of children, turned on. And this is to be applauded because its just his kink.

StealthPolarBear · 23/06/2019 23:07

Where will this end? How many thousands of children will be abused before it does?
I feel sick.

CountFosco · 23/06/2019 23:17

Didn't Pride use to be about who you love, not how you have sex? So it should be fine for children, e.g. I don't need to hide their auntie's wife from them any more than I need to hide their uncle's wife. They are all members of the family who we love. That's a world away from people using children as props in their role play.

OrchidInTheSun · 23/06/2019 23:20

As you can no longer see the video, it's of a couple of the pups doing some synchronised dancing to a pop tune with small children watching with their parents and a couple of kids running in and out of the tent.

I also agree with him that this isn't suitable entertainment for children. So why are our councils funding it on a Saturday afternoon?

I don't know about Leicester but where I live, Pride is now positioned as a fun for all the family day out. It never used to be and yet we didn't have half the fetishists in gimp masks that you have now.

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StealthPolarBear · 23/06/2019 23:22

Exactly. Acceptance. Only now who you 'love' might wear a rubber suit and a dog mask and instead of that being accepted as part of a consenting couples private sex play it's seen as an intrinsic part of the self and so must be accepted without question.
And of course there are the people who 'love' and want relationships with children. And before long the narrative will be that they must be accepted and its all good clean fun.

StealthPolarBear · 23/06/2019 23:24

We need a group whose authentic selves involves the abuse of middle aged white men. Then there will be a backlash

2BthatUnnoticed · 24/06/2019 01:11

You are right - man in purple shirt, sitting down. Pretty shocking.

2BthatUnnoticed · 24/06/2019 01:11

(Re the man having an erection I mean... this is all pretty disturbing.)

Sunkisses · 24/06/2019 02:32

These wankers obviously get a thrill out of being out in public, violating boundaries. Just looked through the PawsEvent twitter account and mixed in with the tweets about dungeons, adult baby fetish events, punishments for 'breaking the no cum rule', they publicise an event where they meet and 'play' in a bloody public park, in Portsmouth. So sick of these people who think it is OK to parade their fetish in public and around kids.
twitter.com/PawsEvent/status/1127421841117732864

Pup play fans dance for children at Pride
2BthatUnnoticed · 24/06/2019 02:56

In plain sight.

Pup play fans dance for children at Pride
EverardDigby · 24/06/2019 06:30

Didn't Pride use to be about who you love, not how you have sex? So it should be fine for children, e.g. I don't need to hide their auntie's wife from them any more than I need to hide their uncle's wife. They are all members of the family who we love. That's a world away from people using children as props in their role play.

This. Various people seem to think Pride is about sex/sexuality but IMO it should only be about sex in the same way that weddings are about sex, celebrating our relationships.

HandsOffMyRights · 24/06/2019 07:22

This is the police at another Pride earlier this year:

Pup play fans dance for children at Pride
KatvonHostileExtremist · 24/06/2019 07:46

Grin always

dianebrewster · 24/06/2019 07:58

That police image is much older @HandsOffMyRights - if you reverse image search you can find it back to 2016. I think it's Brighton. Still horrific, but has been around a while.

HorsewithnoHoldsBarred · 24/06/2019 08:00

In the olden days when a child was asked "do you want to see some puppies?" we knew exactly what was going on.

IfNotNowThenWhen1 · 24/06/2019 08:13

Sorry but what actually are "Pups?" I don't really want to Internet search it.
I get the dog/lead reference (so is it a submissive thing?) But why the face masks?
The pictures are astonishing and disturbing certainly.

gingersausage · 24/06/2019 09:11

So basically they are paedophiles “hiding” in plain sight and being allowed, encouraged even, to get away with it by the very law enforcement officers who are actually supposed to protect children.

This country becomes more of a fucking laughing stock every single day.

plattercake · 24/06/2019 09:19

This is horrible and disturbing. That picture from Pride with the children. How can that be allowed to happen?

I do not want to see that Pup abomination at a park or anywhere. Its possible to see them as being a bit ridiculous I suppose but we can't ignore the disordered mentality of these men and once in public its far from a harmless game. The masks must be partly out of shame but also.. , I don't want to think about it. There is no healthy benefit in minds going to these dark places.

I'd be calling the police if I saw this.. but then..

That Southampton event sounds v v v disturbing. WTF has happened to society that men think they can do this?

On another note, I just clicked on the Mirror as a search result showed they were reporting the NSPCC worker story and I wanted to see what they were saying, but I have never seen a more disturbing collection of 'recommended' click bait stories underneath it. A horrendous mix of rape, murder, BDSM and pornography reports and 'stories', including child related stuff and those click baity pictures and headlines. Just awful seeing it all side by side like that where some is supposed to be bad/serious and some fun or even arousing and carefully chosen by algorithm to appear together. Urgh. I don't normally go to their website so I don't know if that is normal for them now, but I just feel dirty and disturbed from a glimpse of it. I need some eye and mind bleach. The level of depravity across society is surely getting worse if this is what is public. Horrible, just horrible.

OrchidInTheSun · 24/06/2019 09:29

IfNotNow - the pup thing is a kind of BDSM. I don't actually believe most of them are paedophiles but I do think that there is a big disconnect between what different groups think Pride is about. If it is about a celebration of kink and fetish which is what the pups maintain, then why are these organisations funding it (these are the sponsors of Lancaster Pride).

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CandidPeel · 24/06/2019 09:33

Once you see this you can't unsee it.

Gendered Intelligence ad, with pup with studded dog collar ...

That's just a cute cartoon, right?!

Pup play fans dance for children at Pride
OrchidInTheSun · 24/06/2019 09:35

And these are the people who are behind the tent: puppypride.social/events/314/the-dog-house

Incidentally, I checked our Pride parade and it is advertised as 'family friendly'. Was Lancaster's? If it was, I would be contacting the sponsors if I'd been there. Because this kind of stall doesn't belong anywhere near a family friendly festival

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DuMondeB · 24/06/2019 09:39

The pop tune they were dancing to was ‘Barbie Girl’.

The entire stall was set up to be appealing to children, the only thing it was missing was a bowl of candy.

Puppies don’t use ball ponds, they are for human children.

0ttoline · 24/06/2019 09:40

Channel 4 was normalising this fetish a few years ago, in a documentary called Secret Life of the Human Pups. It portrayed the men as a bit sad and lonely - nerdy guys, whose female friends feel a bit sorry for them, with their embarrassing but harmless needs.

I don't know if it's still available to watch, but here's a helpful Guardian article on it. Don't they sound cute, and funny, and nice?

"It’s easy to laugh at a grown man in a rubber dog suit chewing on a squeaky toy. Maybe too easy, in fact, because to laugh is to dismiss it, denigrate it – ignore the fact that many of us have found comfort and joy in pretending to be animals at some point in our lives.

Secret Life of the Human Pups is a sympathetic look at the world of pup play, a movement that grew out of the BDSM community and has exploded in the last 15 years...

"It’s just nice, it makes me feel comfortable."

"It’s an instinctive, emotional space... This is part of my identity, but it’s only part. I’m also a vegetarian, play the piano; I have a parrot. I was planting tomatoes on my allotment this morning. I can go months without going into pup space.”

Are the sort of men drawn to puppy play simply exploring their intuitive self? “Absolutely,” says David. “Puppy play is exactly that – play. There is an immense amount of pleasure from gambolling around in a club playing with squeaky toys because you’re making people laugh, you’re being a cute little puppy. The gay scene can be very serious, scary and offputting. But if you’re going in with a little puppy hood, ears and a tongue, you look cute. You’re allowed to bound around and be enthusiastic, mischievous and friendly.”

“Even when I worked in PC World I would sometimes walk up to people and nip at their shirt,” he says, laughing. “I got in trouble once; someone walked into the PC repair centre and I had part of their dad’s computer in my mouth. But the other staff knew I was like that to everyone. They didn’t find it weird.”

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/may/25/secret-life-of-the-human-pups-the-men-who-live-as-dogs

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 24/06/2019 09:49

I’ve just checked out pictures of my local Pride from 2018, and front and centre is a woman in a leather dog mask Sad

Of course it’s being advertised as family friendly and sponsored by loads of big local firms

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