Why can’t transgender lesbians just date each other?

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I keep seeing online transgender women so angry a female lesbian doesn’t want to date someone trans, but it begs the question why can’t they just date each other?

If they genuinely believe a trans woman is without question a woman and they are attracted to women then surely this would solve all their problems in terms of finding a partner? They could just date each other? Unless they don’t want to date trans women because they don’t see trans women as real women? Hmm

Digits?
Do you also identify as being 14?

You know what @Veronicawiththefacts. If I was as stunningly beautiful, kind and just downright amazing as you seem to think you are, I wouldn’t be sitting writing an essay on a thread from over 3 years ago on a Saturday evening. I’d be out having all the sex and living my best life, not trying to convince people that lesbians should sleep with men….

Dear Veronica
Thank you for the lengthy explanation about yourself, which I haven't bothered to read.
Did you mention whether you enjoy track cycling perchance?

PMSL! Anyone can be anything on the internet can't they? Especially if you’re right.

Again, I’m happy you could get this off your chest and express this. Please go on if you feel the need to say more, and just know I will never disrespect you or your beliefs. That’s my character. What I did was share of my experiences to explain what things that are actually happening; I never said a lesbian needs to sleep with me or any other transexual, and I’m not sure where you took that from to be honest. You’re welcome to think whatever you want of me and to treat me however you see fit. That’s your character.

And please do recognize I said your beliefs. You aren’t president of the lesbians or lesbian police anymore than I am president of the trans world. You aren’t able to redefine the next woman’s sexuality for her because she’s using language you disagree with or sleeping with people you disagree with, which is what I think you’re actually doing here ironically, not me.

TLDR, “Veronica”.

Look out everyone, a man has come to tell us wimmin where we are going wrong

bow down to his magnificence and apologise for not womaning correctly

and I would say about 80 percent of men I encounter express some signs of sexual attraction

I also find I’m sexualized to a degree by many other females, although it’s more split between those who praise my looks, those who exhibit signs of attraction, and those who are threatened by or fake with me

these have been my favourite bits so far

<puts kettle on>

And lo, a male has defined what a lesbian is and declared that women and lesbians may not define it for themselves.

Being exclusively same sex attracted is a protected legal characteristic. It's easily defined. What any one individual calls themselves or who they choose to sleep with doesn't change the concept of exclusively same sex attracted. A female human who is exclusively attracted to other human females is known as a lesbian. If they are attracted to male humans too then they are bisexual.

If a male person called themselves straight, heterosexual or opposite sex attracted, but was in a happy consensual sexual relationship with another adult male, had only ever had relationships and/or sex with other adult males, would you agree with them that they were straight?

Again, I never argued that cisgender lesbians should be with trans women, and I’m not sure how you all are independently missing what I have expressed. I’m glad you were able to get this off your chest and hope you feel free to continue expressing yourself. Thanks for your contribution. Please don’t worry about my social life. I am choosing to do this with some free time that I effectively manage because on occasion I think it’s important to get a transexual perspective across for representation purposes. Occasionally I do things like this as a sort of community service to spread information about a misunderstood population. I work as an educator and I believe education is a powerful tool. I don’t think I need to explain that, and I can see the overall mood of this room, but I am remaining calm and open to respectful exchange. I’m very happy to be a part of your community. Thanks :-)

Stop using "cis" to describe women (or men). It's unwelcome and hostile.

If you wish to be “welcome in our community” stop with the cis shit. It isn’t accepted on here

Oh. Dear. God.

And then your eyes met over a rolling melon when both went to grab it? Right?

these fantasies are fucking ridiculous.

@Veronicawiththefacts out of curiosity, are you US based?

The bit where women are threatened by him is definitely my favourite

i’m presuming he means threatened figuratively rather than literally

if he’s literally threatening women (always a possibility it turns out) then that bit isn’t my favourite, just to be clear

Glad you clarified that

I think we can only speculate on why women might be ‘fake’ with a man like this

Hey, I’m here to shine too! We’re all here to shine! ✨👍🤣

What does 'asking for digits' mean? (I'm picturing chopping fingers off, but that seems unlikely).

Opening/holding doors, helping with dropped items or with hard-to-reach stuff - common courtesies offered and given everywhere by everyone regardless of sex, surely?

Asking for digits is asking for phone number usually

oh I don't do that!

I don’t need to get anything off my chest thanks, and I’m really not worried about your social life, I’m sure you’re having a banging time dropping your groceries so a manly man can help you. I am slightly worried about how much you live in a fantasy world. I can guarantee you that 80% of your interactions with men don’t contain some sexual attraction. Even Beyoncé wouldn’t get that level of sexual attraction interaction, and IMO she’s the most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen. But hey, you do you, if you think that you’re all that then good for you.

Hey, Veronica, you haven't answered my question about cycling yet :'(
How's your w/kg looking these days - does that attract the pursuit team?

Thanks so much for your contributions.

by threatened I mean in the sense of sexual competition. a woman once tried to get out of her car because she didn’t like how I was driving once to fight me, but I deescalated the situation by remaining calm and respectful, which I find most respond to. I typically I try to avoid physical confrontation and carry mace for when I am groped or stalked by males (again this happens often). I don’t have fantasies. I know exactly what occurs, and y’all can deny it if it doesn’t align with your world-view or how things should be for a transexual. It’s still important to explain how things actually are to spread proper information. If you choose to continue to be openly hostile despite my being perfectly respectful, that’s your decision, but I don’t think it will reflect well for casual readers who chance upon this thread in the future.

thanks again :-)

Ah. Definitely American then. Mace is illegal here