Use of trans identified male as opposed to transwoman No2.

[happydappy2]

MNHQ There has been much written recently about how the controlling of the words we use, is very misleading. Many women reject the word transwoman as it can be misunderstood. In light of this, would you reconsider yr guidelines that Trans Identified Male can not be used? It would seem a more factually accurate description of a human male who presents in a stereotypically female way. Thank you.

So this has been going on since Friday evening..........is this normal?

Well it is if you post multiple threads I suppose

Think i hate peeps more than guys and ladies

What would be fascinating is for MN to analyse which posters have taken up the huge majority of these threads, it’s quite clear.

As has been repeatedly stated because the word transwomen tricks the brain into thinking of women rather than men.

Also to add to this, IF whoever you are speaking to knows a transwoman is a transwoman..rather than assuming a transwoman is a transman like many do, the next issue there is is that 'transwoman' brings up images of post op transsexuals. And those are a tiny minority of those who class themselves as transwomen these days. I think, again, the language being confusing is for a very specific reason, and this is kind of why TRAs wail so much when people use phrases such as 'male trans person' or whatever. They rely on people thinking GC people are either wanting female trans people not to use womens areas, or that they are on about post op transsexuals. When the huge majority of transwomen are NOT post op transsexuals and infact it appears the majority are just straight men who like feminine things, or even guys who like wearing womens underwear every now and again. Or just..guys who refuse to listen to womens boundaries.

So this has been going on since Friday evening..........is this normal?

Um.... you're the one who posted yet another thread as a 1000 posts over a weekend wasn't enough lol.
Yes, I find it is - the threads go excessively long if people dare to say anything different to the usual speak as weetabix gets referred to if anyone disagrees, accusations of Man, Sealion, DARVO or gaslighting gets reeled off if anything different gets said and it all goes waaay off topic from what I see.
So yes it is normal

What would be fascinating is for MN to analyse which posters have taken up the huge majority of these threads, it’s quite clear

Why do our opinions intimidate you so much?

....threatened that women are just saying NO

A few men feeling threatened on this thread I see

OK, where?
Is that another you're a man accusation?

I'm thinking it's again quite ironic that the OP has complained about people trying to police language but who now wants to police who can post on an open thread or how many times they post on said thread.

Maybe start a thread OP and state exactly who can and can't post on it. See how that works for you.

yeah

Whats the point of that comment

Its just being goady for no reason...

Why has pam been deleted

I didnt even see what she posted it was that quick

Interesting analysis theother

My aim as a mother is to raise a child who forms opinions for themselves, with all of the facts. I don’t agree with projecting ones own prejudices onto their children. It’s how we end up with a hateful and intolerant society.

Is that another you're a man accusation?

Oh no no. Man also has another meaning, like chaps and guys.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer

It was being quite offensive but it might have been being sarcastic.

Regardless, what was said was offensive.

I didnt even see what she posted it was that quick

I think MNHQ are watching this thread very closely.

Yea the only people I see as threatened are those who try so desperately to discredit people’s opinions, in the hope of manipulating people into not listening.

Regardless, what was said was offensive

I agree

I dont think it was sarcasm though

But i dont really know that poster and i am shit at recognising sarcasm online

Oh no no. Man also has another meaning, like chaps and guys.

Chaps I have never seen used for women. Guys I see used for women all the time? You seem to be rubbishing that? Dude, and mate I see for women a lot too. My sister calls her daughter mate constantly, and it sounds odd (niece is only 9!) but I am used to it now..calling adult females mate is something I do. Never chap though.

If I was being pedantic, man is used for a lot of women by the woke lot

But no. Obviously that post was goady.

I know. I was just so that anyone would say it and mean it that I wondered if it was being sarcastic.

Regardless though, it was offensive.

Oh sorry decomposing i got confused...

You said something ambiguous, you said something that I can take faux offence at, you said something that I can make 55 posts about, you're not as smart as me, that's not the right expression, OMG...

Transwomen should be called men or male when it helps to make any objections crystal clear.

(OMG, what if it's not clear, what if it's not crystal what it's not, when - but if, objections to whaaat)

The extraordinary lengths people will go to shut women up and stop them from naming males and male violence.

And the trillions of DMs I received, all agree with me. And they think I'm gawjus.

I’ve only had one pm...and that was cos i pmed them first

(I am joking...please dont pm me!!!)

Though the one pm bit wasnt a joke...that was true

Im supposed to be reading a book!!