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Owen Jones Twitter feed

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christinarossetti19 · 13/06/2019 10:46

Lil' OJ is being demolished as he tries to defend Bergdorf etc

Look now if you're interested as it will no doubt be deleted soon.

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1138809431792263169

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Fibbke · 13/06/2019 19:04

I've been chatting to a family member about this, she doesn't know anything about it but is involved in a lot of management stuff and asked her team what they thought. She thought it would actually be difficult to fire someone for having a video like that.

Rubbish!

CrazyToast · 13/06/2019 19:05

Not really the point but if you wee your rubber sex-pants at work, what do you do then? Sit in it all day?

Fibbke · 13/06/2019 19:05

If he made it at work then he is making pornography at work which is gross misconduct.

I employ lots of people and work with unions.

sackrifice · 13/06/2019 19:18

Not really the point but if you wee your rubber sex-pants at work, what do you do then? Sit in it all day?

Thanks for that. I am so glad I work from home. Another reason to turn down the idea of working in an office. Bleurgh.

CaveMum · 13/06/2019 19:22

Well worth following family law barrister Sarah Phillimore on Twitter over this story. She’s written to NSPCC - letter here: twitter.com/svphillimore/status/1139186612506714112?s=21

breakfastpizza · 13/06/2019 19:30

LOL at OJ posting 'proof' of Mumsnet trans/homophobia... and not a single one of the screenshots supported his assertion.

But don't let a little thing like evidence stop you, Owie. Grin

sackrifice · 13/06/2019 19:37

So where is he?

Come on Owen, come and tell us all about it.

CantspellWontspell · 13/06/2019 19:47

That’s a great letter by Sarah Phillmore.

LOJ would do better to ignore Mumsnet if he is truly worried about us being a radicalisation portal. What an Owen goal - driving people from his frothing hyperbole to reasoned, evidenced debate. Blithering pillock that he is.

Rubidium · 13/06/2019 20:21

Where does Owen Jones ever encounter any views that go against his own? He blocks anyone who challenges him on Twitter, and the Grauniad won't allow comments under his articles, so he ends up spouting off his opinions to his community of wokes who unquestioningly agree with him or face ostracism. Why can't he put that Oxford-educated brain of his to work and come up with a coherent article where he rationally addresses both sides of an argument, rather than the endless sanctimonius hectoring that constitutes most of his output.

TurboTeddy · 13/06/2019 20:25

This has just been posted on AIBU, not sure what the etiquette is regarding the inclusion of the posters user name so I've left it out.

*Just to stress my screen shot above is section 71 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/71

Which states:

71 Sexual activity in a public lavatory
(1)A person commits an offence if—
(a)he is in a lavatory to which the public or a section of the public has or is permitted to have access, whether on payment or otherwise,
(b)he intentionally engages in an activity, and,
(c)the activity is sexual.

(2)For the purposes of this section, an activity is sexual if a reasonable person would, in all the circumstances but regardless of any person’s purpose, consider it to be sexual.

(3)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or both.*

TheAngryLlama · 13/06/2019 20:40

The fact that jones went to oxford is proof, if it were needed (I give you Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees mogg, Toby Young, james delingpole, I could go on and on and on) that the intellectual standard at Oxford is not very high.

DeRigueurMortis · 13/06/2019 20:57

the intellectual standard at Oxford is not very high.

I beg to disagree.

I think the standard is high, but there are arrogant fuckwits in every cohort who think that the fact they have enjoyed a very privileged education entitles them to be right (even when they are left Wink)

CassianAndor · 13/06/2019 21:01

Fantastic letter by Sarah. Watching with interest.

ZebrasAreBras · 13/06/2019 21:34

Evening Owen! As you're reading:

Please could you explain why a man filming himself "wanking & pissing" in fetish gear, in their work toilets, and putting it onto porn channels, is a gay rights issue?

And why the women raising concerns about this are "homophobes"?

Some of the women here - who you are calling bigots - have fought for gay rights for decades. Some probably since before you were born. Some were fighting against Section 28 when you were about 4 years old. A fair few women here have significantly more experience than you do.

Child protection is a serious issue, safeguarding is paramount. So stop having tantrums all over twitter about us.

Justhadathought · 13/06/2019 21:57

It makes me think of Paglia's claim/observation that this kind of "efflorescence of transgender phenomena" always accompanies the decadent end phases of a civilisation

That's definitely how i am seeing and feeling it at this time in history. I can't see what human beings are adding that is positive any longer. It has all gone to shit; and is so corrupt and decadent. Horrible!
I'm not feeling good about the time I am living in.

nauticant · 13/06/2019 22:07

We've been saying for years that what the trans issue needs is wider exposure, for more people to become aware of what's actually going on beneath the glittery rainbows. We were wondering what might get more awareness going. Well, this is where Owen Jones comes in.

Please continue with what you're doing Owen. Especially with the parts where you hector women and tell them off for not doing feminism in a way you approve of. The more people see this the better.

NotBadConsidering · 13/06/2019 22:14

Conveniently screenshotting comments out of context. Nice. Well screenshot this Owen:

You are a contemptible piece of shit who’s happy to defend a man’s right to wank at work at a children’s charity, claim homophobia in defence of that, then deliberately mislead your Twitter followers about it. Screenshot this you misogynistic prick🖕

Justhadathought · 13/06/2019 22:18

Not quite OJ - but an interesting you tube clip of an interview with Camile Paglia on the current transgender trend:

Outofinspiration · 13/06/2019 22:19

You are a contemptible piece of shit who’s happy to defend a man’s right to wank at work at a children’s charity, claim homophobia in defence of that, then deliberately mislead your Twitter followers about it. Screenshot this you misogynistic prick

🙌🙌🙌

DeRigueurMortis · 13/06/2019 22:31

You are a contemptible piece of shit who’s happy to defend a man’s right to wank at work at a children’s charity, claim homophobia in defence of that, then deliberately mislead your Twitter followers about it. Screenshot this you misogynistic prick

That about sums it up.

If we all re-post this to a 1k thread then maybe LOJ might get the message (doubtful admittedly).

Fibbke · 13/06/2019 22:37

You are a contemptible piece of shit who’s happy to defend a man’s right to wank at work at a children’s charity, claim homophobia in defence of that, then deliberately mislead your Twitter followers about it. Screenshot this you misogynistic prick

👌

CassianAndor · 13/06/2019 22:41

You are a contemptible piece of shit who’s happy to defend a man’s right to wank at work at a children’s charity, claim homophobia in defence of that, then deliberately mislead your Twitter followers about it. Screenshot this you misogynistic prick

🤛

Datun · 13/06/2019 22:43

I thought jones was up on arms about bergdorf and the initial exposure of rubberman's extra curricular proclivities.

I'm having trouble believing that he has doubled down after the video was reported.

The man wanked and pissed at work in a fetish suit, filmed it, uploaded it to social media, and linked it to his work CV on LinkedIn.

It's indefensible.

GrinitchSpinach · 13/06/2019 22:47

What an Owen goal

Weeping with laughter here. Grin

LangCleg · 13/06/2019 22:47

You are a contemptible piece of shit who’s happy to defend a man’s right to wank at work at a children’s charity, claim homophobia in defence of that, then deliberately mislead your Twitter followers about it. Screenshot this you misogynistic prick