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Lil' OJ is being demolished as he tries to defend Bergdorf etc

Look now if you're interested as it will no doubt be deleted soon.

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1138809431792263169

That list of letter signatories is probably a good place to start the internal investigation.

Anyone else seeing this letter being passed under the cubicle partitions one by one?

I missed all the action! the forbidden post is an admirably terse and efficient summation of my views on Mr Jones

Tiny ineffectual pseud

you women really know how to write - do you know that?

I've seen worse pile ons on threads about helium balloons.

Someone tweeted this very amusing parody:

twitter.com/Mopsento/status/1139461863169769472

I would absolutely interview the letter signatories. It is chillingly Orwellian.
What further deeply disturbs me, as a teacher, is that in our yearly child safeguarding training, we are told to refer vulnerable students to the NSPCC. Can I raise concerns about this to my Head? My Union has a small, but powerful, LGBTQ section who ban any sort of discussion on this.

ZIGGY, you make very good points.

This whole thing is an absolute train wreck.

“We must all pull together”
I am actually crying now. Thank you for making my Friday morning.

Ziggy, absolutely. The NSPCC is quoted and used in safeguarding training and increasingly in pshe lessons due to the upcoming updated RSE statutory requirements.

I'm going to make another thread at some point when I understand more as it's a different but related topic but I'd like to just draw attention to Operation Encompass that is now rolling onto its second phase of positioning police officers within schools for parents suffering from domestic violence and coercive control to privately speak to them regarding their situation and the impact on children as well as a series of lessons to be embedded within the curriculum about consent, what a normal relationship looks like, coercive control (age appropriate).

This is directly from government strategy and funding and a part of school safeguarding training regarding the impact of domestic violence and coercive control on children as well as sitting alongside the new RSE guidelines.

Its an excellent programme - I have of course wondered about delivery of this if you are perhaps West Yorkshire police and quite where certain boundaries might lie, especially after reading the transwidows threads.

www.operationencompass.org/

I've been chatting to a family member about this, she doesn't know anything about it but is involved in a lot of management stuff and asked her team what they thought. She thought it would actually be difficult to fire someone for having a video like that.

I handle employee relations issues for offices in multiple jurisdictions, I can tell you this would be a sackable offence in all of them, and an indefensible sacking at that.

Uploading the image that Kesstrel’s twitter link leads to.

It’s too good to lose.

Screenshot of Kesstrel's link - just in case it goes (they're very report-trigger-happy at the moment).

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Snap!

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Oh MumsnetHQ, why should anyone take offence at anything we say? I thought we were just a bunch of brainless middle class breeders. I have to breastfeed my cat, and have a stack of avocados to peel, but I'll try to think of something nice to say about little OJ while I'm doing it.

little OJ thinks it's strange for a middle-aged man to be hanging about on Mumsnet

Middle-aged man here. I don't post very often as I'm here to learn rather than talk. I just tend congratulate a particularly good post, or maybe ask for clarification about a point.
I 'hang around' Mumsnet because it's the only place I've found where I can read what women think about 'trans rights'. Everywhere else - particularly The Guardian - I get to read what people such as Owen Jones think women should think, and I'm told by those like him that this is what 'most women', 'most feminists' believe.

Oddly that doesn't seem to be the case; whenever I listen to women unfiltered by men like Owen I hear the exact opposite of what he tells me.

Thank you once again to Mumsnet and contributors.

Hey, Owen!

Look at this! Proper journalism! Shame we’ve all been forced into subscribing to what you’d probably call ‘right wing rags’ to find some.

I’m at peak 2019.

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/munroe-bergdorfs-sacking-and-the-failure-of-the-media/

Great minds, DuMondeB

James Kirkup again

I know it's all too easy to fall into the trap of fawning over men and ignoring women's equal contributions, but I do think James warrants a bit of fawning. he is 100% on this. so thanks James

Wankers Rights Are Human RIghts!

Are we allowed to C&P this one? Eh? Please nicely?

What further deeply disturbs me, as a teacher, is that in our yearly child safeguarding training, we are told to refer vulnerable students to the NSPCC. Can I raise concerns about this to my Head?

Very, very important point.

Cor blimey. the last few paras of that speccie article:

Fact 1: Munroe Bergdorf was sacked by a child safety charity because the charity said she undermined its child safety work. She has since been lionised and feted, treated as a victim of injustice.

Fact 2: Janice Turner sent a single tweet to ask the charity a question about Munroe Bergdorf’s appointment, an appointment the charity has now accepted was inappropriate and mistaken. Janice Turner has since been vilified, abused and defamed.

Question: what are the differences between Munroe Bergdorf and Janice Turner that might explain the different ways in which they have been treated?

bravo James. Thinking caps on everyone! we can surely crack this conundrum.

Instead of being sarky about how some of us would even claim to be left wing, he might want to reflect on whether it is more likely that long standing left wing campaigners (many of whom protested section 28 and have a track record of sticking up for minorities) have suddenly transmogrified into bigots on this sole issue, or whether they might actually have a point which he ought to consider and engage with instead of hurling insults.

Well that would require him to actually engage with women and consider their opinions worth listening to. Which he wouldn't because he is routinely dismissive of women. It might also involve a bit of investigation and use of proper journalistic skills and I'm sure he doesn't want to expose the fact that he is now only capable of biased, emotive, toxic rants rather than balanced thoughtful pieces.

My Union has a small, but powerful, LGBTQ section who ban any sort of discussion on this.

Any group (regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity) who prevent others raising Safeguarding concerns should be viewed by anyone who understands/prioritises Child Protection as representing potential risk.
Its a string of red flag bunting- always was & always will be.

Anyway it is always good to see Owen identifying with the wankers of the world. At least some things fall into their natural place.