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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Owen Jones sounds off about ‘self described’ feminists

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AlwaysTawnyOwl · 12/06/2019 18:10

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/12/lgbtq-rights-danger-pride-fight-back-homophobic-attacks

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dreichuplands · 12/06/2019 20:58

Jeez, the NSPCC video is even worse than I thought.
How can OJ think that this behavior is acceptable in any office, let alone one the works with vulnerable dc?
I would assume the worker would be sacked for gross misconduct and gross is an accurate word.

FloralBunting · 12/06/2019 20:59

How do you reverse ferret this?

Goosefoot · 12/06/2019 21:01

So, I don't know much about Jones background, I get the impression from what people say that he's never really been a journalist, just a sort of opinion writer? How did he end up in that position, he's not particularly brilliant.

DuMondeB · 12/06/2019 21:06

How do you reverse ferret this?

Won’t be easy in tight rubber trousers.

Weezol · 12/06/2019 21:09

RedToothBrush Are points awarded or deducted when his mum pops up to defend him?

RedToothBrush · 12/06/2019 21:11

Reverse ferret is to say you've always been for safeguarding and child protection and of course this is unacceptable and you've always been on the side of history of those saying this is unacceptable and you would never condone such behaviour and isn't it utterly disgusting (oh the outrage), making sure you prove just how sincere and passionately you have this view and hold it in a stronger way than everyone else, thus to make yourself look revelant and on the correct bandwagon. Probably cos your gay and this marginalise and oppresses you more than anyone else in the entire fucking world.

Well that's how you'd reverse ferret it, if you were Mr 1984.

littlbrowndog · 12/06/2019 21:12

Haha wee Owen and his mum

Always makes me laugh

RedToothBrush · 12/06/2019 21:13

Are points awarded or deducted when his mum pops up to defend him?

If he could get his mum to put in an appearance to validate and confirm his sincerity in his reverse ferret I'd definitely give him a gold star.

SirVixofVixHall · 12/06/2019 21:14

DuMondeB hahahaha.
That Julia HB video is highly amusing, OJ huffs and puffs , pouts, crosses his arms , he is like the most spoilt boy in year six.

But anyway , I am struggling to grasp this, is this the situation ? a man masturbates in rubber fetish wear at his place of work, which happens to be OUR NATIONAL CHILDREN’S CHARITY , and Owen is saying anyone who wants him sacked is a pearl clutching homophobe ?

RedToothBrush · 12/06/2019 21:21

But anyway , I am struggling to grasp this, is this the situation ? a man masturbates in rubber fetish wear at his place of work, which happens to be OUR NATIONAL CHILDREN’S CHARITY , and Owen is saying anyone who wants him sacked is a pearl clutching homophobe ?

No I don't think you are struggling to grasp the situation at all. I think you have it fully figured out in all its glory.

Obviously a straight man doing this would be greeted as just fine and dandy to us all here, according to the same logic of young Owen.

OvaHere · 12/06/2019 21:25

My flabber is gasted this evening.

Jess Bradley must be kicking themselves that they didn't apply to the NSPCC instead.

SirVixofVixHall · 12/06/2019 21:28

Bloody Hell . That is not only really misplaced and grim, but also entirely misreading the nation. I can’t imagine anyone I know, on being told about said rubber man and his er “habits” at the NSPCC , would go “ oh well, whatever he likes to do in the loos at work is fine by me” .
Imagine being his colleague ! You wouldn’t want to risk the lavs at lunchtime in case Mr Rubber was in there with his wanger in one hand and a camera in the other.

FloralBunting · 12/06/2019 21:30

Yeah, who knew, eh? The trick to really getting your sexual exhibitionism accepted and lauded by Guardian opinion writers is to pick the most respected Children's charity to do it in, rather than the NUS.

littlbrowndog · 12/06/2019 21:31

Yeah it’s like ffs who films themselves wanking on way to work and then tells everybody

Someone who doesn’t have a clue abou5 boundaries

terfsandwich · 12/06/2019 21:32

Did James put that video on twitter? Has someone put a mouse face over his bits and they're visible in the original, or did he cute-mouse-face himself?

OvaHere · 12/06/2019 21:34

I'm guessing the person who screenshot it covered the bits.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 12/06/2019 21:35

and I think we'd all like to extend a vote of thanks to the person who wielded that mouse head

RedToothBrush · 12/06/2019 21:35

Tbf working Owen up into a frenzy about how you spell LGBTQ isn't difficult. Just say the word 'persecutated' turn the clockwork key in his back, and point him in the right direction and your laughing. It's not like he checks anything out with that tin head of his.

TemporaryPermanent · 12/06/2019 21:46

I'm sure masturbating at work happens a lot. Meh. British productivity figures aren't great but, hey, work to live not live to work. (Can wanking be included in GDP figures somehow?)

Masturbating at work, filming it and posting it online in a way that obviously is findable by others (that's kind of what online is, after all) is just plain stupid. I would expect to be on a knife edge at work at the very least.

Filming your personal kink and demonstrating that you don't acknowledge any boundary between your work for a children's organisation and your cock needs is really worrying. Sacking would be about the least I'd expect.

Then be shown to leap to employ controversialists who don't understand safeguarding for the same children's charity? This is just horrible corruption. I hope Peter Wanless reviews the entire organisational culture, particularly the employment of a Celebrity Manager - don't recall that from the fundraising adverts.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 12/06/2019 22:04

But then I'm not sure he thinks of women as people. Not like him anyway.

Which is how we know he doesn’t actually believe MB, LM & co are women.

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 12/06/2019 22:15

And this is what women are worried about. Because this man in his fetish gear wanking in the toilets and posting it online could at any point decide actually he identifies as a woman on Wednesdays and wants to access the women's toilets to wank in his fetish gear. In fact it's only the fact that this man is gay that has probably saved this from happening as he doesn't want to be in the women's toilets. But he could access them if he wanted to and be feted for it.

FromEden · 12/06/2019 22:21

Well I don't think men should have to be in a cubicle next to a colleague in rubber pissing and wanking either. That's got to be uncomfortable.

BlackForestCake · 12/06/2019 22:27

It's weird how quickly this story has gone from "Munroe is not an appropriate champion for the NSPCC" to "Holy shit, what is going on at the NSPCC is much worse than Munroe"

AlwaysComingHome · 12/06/2019 22:32

I'm sure masturbating at work happens a lot.

Only if you are a sperm donor.

Remember Smack the Pony? Didn’t Glinner write a sketch about an office where they banned wanking at their desks?

DuMondeB · 12/06/2019 22:33

With the push towards all-gender-neutral, he’ll soon be wanking next to men and women (and non-binary people).

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