Why doesn’t this sub talk more about grooming gangs?

[Namechange1990x]

I’m from one of the many areas that has had a mass grooming gang problem.

I just don’t understand how this sub is in such anger about the trans issue and not grooming gangs. I can think of one example of a TiM (Karen White) attacking women. Meanwhile we’ve had tens of thousands of girls raped by a group of men who are a minority (2% of the population).

So in terms of numbers why isn’t there more feminist campaigning about this issue???

I also want to add I agree with this sub about the trans issue. I don’t want them in women’s spaces. But I’ve seen next to nothing about this issue. Is it because people want to be politically correct? Because you aren’t afraid of being non PC when it comes to the trans issue. Also that’s the reason this was ignored for so long in Rotherham and was allowed to continue to 10+ years.

Julie Bindell has done a great job raising this issue but I wish people would take it more seriously. We have 2% of the population (Muslim men) involved in over 84% of grooming gang cases and it’s happening all over the country. I just wish people would take this more seriously instead of worrying about coming across as racist.

Sub?

Are you campaigning? Have you started any threads other than this one on the subject?

Sub?

Yes? This is a feminist sub? Sub is short for sub forum, have you used the internet before?

Erm you don't have to be so rude, Namechange - we don't use the word "sub" on MN.
It's used on Reddit, I believe?
We use "board" here.

HTH

Yup, “board” is what we use. Perhaps the OP hasn’t used MN before.

It's been discussed at length here. Over many, many thread, over many., many scandals.

Over many many years....
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2109165-Grooming-gangs-please-check-on-your-teens

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3414708-Grown-men-pretending-to-be-children

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3026070-i-don-t-understand-why-sentencing-varies-so-much

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2579817-Rotherham

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3436703-That-this-decision-by-Rotherham-Council-is-unbelievable

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3361061-This-tweet-from-South-Yorkshire-Police

Sub.

Assume op thought s/he was on Reddit.

i thought sexual sub dom thing...

It was obvious what sub meant.

Possibly the OP isn't genuine but grooming seems to have had 6 threads between 2014 - 2018 whereas trans gets far more than that in 1 day.

Personally I do not think trans rights is the of civilisation as we know or that there are hordes of autogynophile men planning a mass invasion of women's spaces.

Why doesn't the OP start a thread discussing grooming gangs, instead of complaining that other people haven't?

I literally thought you were talking about a person.

Maybe don’t start a thread telling people off and just do something instead.

It's the MN equivalent of these awful memes. Why give addicts methadone when there are homeless veterans?

Why not campaign for homeless veterans if you care about that? Rather than telling other people off for it.

If you want a thread, start a thread. Don't tell people off for not starting a thread. People are allowed to care about and talk about whatever they choose.

OP, I welcome this thread you have started to discuss the issue of grooming and sexual exploitation. It is a truly distressing problem and girls in care can be particularly vulnerable, although all girls can be as well.

I have contributed to campaigns trying to combat it in the past, can you point us to any current ones? (Not allowed to link to fundraisers but if you mention them, those wishing to support can look them up.)

this thread you have started to discuss the issue of grooming and sexual exploitation

This thread was started to tell us off, not to talk about grooming.

Girls in care are vulnerable and there is, as far as I can tell, an overwhelming, international reluctance to deal with sexual violence against all women particularly teenage girls, especially vulnerable ones. I know a lot of care leavers and they have all experienced violence.

There isn't a restriction on starting threads. What do you want to discuss about grooming OP? It's an area I have worked in and I am happy to discuss it.

victimfocus.wordpress.com/2017/10/02/british-pakistani-men-raping-white-british-girls-bad-apples-or-a-bad-barrel/

Grooming and abuse is not just a crime committed by Asian men. There are white grooming gangs in my 99% white area also targeting vulnerable girls.

You have a point, OP. There is lots of gymnastics around this.

This thread was started to tell us off, not to talk about grooming

The OP has a point. There is a thread after thread on trans issues. I do sometimes think some of you go out of your way to find something nasty a trans person once said so you can start a thread. Of course you (general you) can talk about whatever you want but doesn't it get tedious?

Personally I think grooming and exploitation is a far bigger worry.

Grooming and abuse is not just a crime committed by Asian men. There are white grooming gangs in my 99% white area also targeting vulnerable girls

The OP didn't say it was. What she said is their involvement is hugely disproportionate to the population generally.

I know MrsTerry, but I was trying to suggest (a bit too subtly) that OP would be better off talking about OP’s preferred topic, instead of just telling us off for not doing so.

What happened in Rotherham (and continues to happen in many places) was and is horrifying, I do feel the press doesn’t cover it as much as it should.

Way too subtle for me

Are there any charities/ action groups who work on the subject?

"Yes? This is a feminist sub? Sub is short for sub forum, have you used the internet before? "

This on the second post? Rather rude.
I agree with others that rather than coming here to complain the OP might simply start a discussion on the topic. That's how it's done.