Why doesn’t this sub talk more about grooming gangs?

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I’m from one of the many areas that has had a mass grooming gang problem.

I just don’t understand how this sub is in such anger about the trans issue and not grooming gangs. I can think of one example of a TiM (Karen White) attacking women. Meanwhile we’ve had tens of thousands of girls raped by a group of men who are a minority (2% of the population).

So in terms of numbers why isn’t there more feminist campaigning about this issue???

I also want to add I agree with this sub about the trans issue. I don’t want them in women’s spaces. But I’ve seen next to nothing about this issue. Is it because people want to be politically correct? Because you aren’t afraid of being non PC when it comes to the trans issue. Also that’s the reason this was ignored for so long in Rotherham and was allowed to continue to 10+ years.

Julie Bindell has done a great job raising this issue but I wish people would take it more seriously. We have 2% of the population (Muslim men) involved in over 84% of grooming gang cases and it’s happening all over the country. I just wish people would take this more seriously instead of worrying about coming across as racist.

I think the feminist board has discussed this. Alot.

Those 6 threads arent the only ones. Abuse of children is talked about often. Grooming is talked about often.

I do think on mn and rl people shy away from talking about it in regards to race. The police did/do in real life too.

It's difficult to navigate the whole discussion without someone screaming racism. That also happens on trans threads to. You make a comment saying 'some transwomen' and get accused of saying 'all trans women'

The simple fact is that you have to be so careful how you word things, or you will be deleted and banned.

It perhaps should be discussed more, so start a thread on it.

yes, only 6 threads my left foot. I started a thread on this which isnn't on that list

you wanna talk about it? talk about it. don't try to tell other women what they should be talking about

There’s been a lot more than 6 threads, its discussed here a lot.

Who the fuck is anyone to come here and tell women what we should start threads about? What a nerve. Start the threads then. If you don’t like what concerns other women, start the damn threads yourself. Oh and there’s a lot more than Karen White to be concerned about.

I declare the OP a GF.

Off you pop, OP.

I was groomed and trafficked as a teenager OP

Not by a gang but by a predatory psychopathic pimp who hated women.

I am deeply concerned about the transgender issue because there are many resonating issues with grooming and the exploitation of vulnerable young people and the brainwashing of whole sectors of society.

It is not an either / or thing.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3176303-The-continuing-war-against-women-Report-on-the-Newcastle-grooming-gang

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3591248-Teenaged-victim-of-a-grooming-gang-was-arrested-5-times

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3259928-The-UK-Governments-Response-to-Grooming-Gangs

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3191026-More-Industrial-Scale-abuse-of-girls

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3336548-Sexual-exploitation-of-young-girls-in-Huddersfield-again

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/1468296-9-men-found-guilty-of-21-counts-of-sexual-abuse

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3317169-Yet-another-Labour-Party-woman-MP-under-threat

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3407277-You-think-youve-seen-it-all-But-you-wont-believe-this

Yep. Transgender children are being groomed. It's all one topic.
If you want to discuss a particular style or aspect of grooming then start that topic. Women here are concerned with the safeguarding of ALL children.

The reason why this board is over populated with trans issues is because it's the only place you actually can talk about it (apart from that Reddit sub forum, and Kiwi Farms) without getting banned. Also, it's gained a reputation now for being "the place" to discuss trans issues, so people come specifically here to find out what all the fuss is about and learn about it.
Almost every day there's a "I'm new here help me out" type of thread. It's not just the same old people starting the same sorts of thread.

Reddit and Kiwi Farms aren't very nice places, they attract proper transphobic blokes.
Here you get a mostly female space, talk and read about the issues from a female perspective, and you're just one click away from some brilliant threads on the other boards here.

I have only ever started threads here on issues not related to trans at all.

Oh, and btw OP, re your have you used the internet before? snipe: I have been on various internet forums for decades, probably since before you were born, and never once have I heard the word "sub" as you have used it. We use words like threads, or topics, or sub-boards, but not sub. As someone said, if I hear the word "sub" I think of SM-ism, subs and doms.

Why have you come on with such an aggressive tone OP? You could have started a thread to discuss the issue and then we'd be actually discussing the issue rather than pissing people off and making them defensive.

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We have 2% of the population (Muslim men) involved in over 84% of grooming gang cases and it’s happening all over the country.

I think that probably gives us a clue as to the OP's real agenda. I suggest we give him or her short shrift.

And the op has not returned... funny that. Like letting off a stink bomb and running away.

We have 49% of the population (be-penised folk) involved in over 99.99% of grooming gang cases and it’s happening all over the country world.

Fixed it.

You need the part of the board I have marked up for you, OP.

Once you click that, all the threads you want on this topic will be available to you.

You could have started a thread to discuss the issue and then we'd be actually discussing the issue rather than pissing people off and making them defensive.

Because they had no intention of discussing the issue. It’s another ‘ you’re not doing feminism right’ post.

OP still not back?

Because it is impossible to talk about it without racism being called. We know that stats but as soon as they are quoted we get not all men, and white men do it etc etc. We are unable to discuss it.

I agree but having twitter spats about Lilly whatstheirname is far safer and not quite as grimy than talking about working class girls being used and abused by men

Because it is impossible to talk about it without racism being called. We know that stats but as soon as they are quoted we get not all men, and white men do it etc etc. We are unable to discuss it.

Rubbish

This thread was started to tell us off, not to talk about grooming.

Girls in care are vulnerable and there is, as far as I can tell, an overwhelming, international reluctance to deal with sexual violence against all women particularly teenage girls, especially vulnerable ones. I know a lot of care leavers and they have all experienced violence.

Exactly.

I think the subject is talked about daily tbh. Just not in the vein of the narrative that the OP wishes but as problem which goes much deeper.

It's roots owe a lot to institutional failure, woke culture which has allowed political blind spots to occur, whistleblowers being thrown under the bus, misogyny and rape culture which frames young victims as 'asking for it', commercialisation of the care system which leads to kids being put in unsuitable homes and their needs not addressed nor even acknowledged, poor mental health care... I could go on.

It's a systematic failure - with many issues that overlap with trans issues - because there has been a breakdown in safeguarding across the board.

I personally don't think it worth talking about under the label of 'grooming gangs' for this reason. That narrative is a pure dog whistle which utterly misses the point of why it happened.

But yeah go on, tell us all off for not talking 'about The Problem' in the exact manner you think the issue should be discussed.

Really fancy a meatball sub now.

Only came on here to find out what a "sub" was. Have also used message boards for a long time but not come across that before.

The OP certainly seems to be trying to provoke for whatever reason.

Lass why don't you start a thread about it then? If you're so concerned? Apologies if you have and I missed it.

Crap, wrong thread, sorry