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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian couple assaulted on a London bus because when they refused to kiss in front of a gang of men.

78 replies

AngeloMysterioso · 07/06/2019 12:03

metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/gay-couple-beaten-refusing-kiss-mens-entertainment-9854367/

There aren’t really words to describe how sickened I am by this. In the city I’m proud to live in, in the middle of fucking Pride month, two women have been beaten up because they didn’t want to put on a show for some disgusting men.

(Have also posted this in AIBU so it reaches a wider audience)

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HelenRivington · 07/06/2019 12:04

Disgusting bastards. Was there cctv on the bus??

ItsInTheSpoon · 07/06/2019 12:06

That’s shockingly upsetting. I hope the morons who did this are caught and properly punished. Wonder if there was cctv on the bus? I can’t believe nobody saw or heard anything. I hope the two women are ok.

Teddybear45 · 07/06/2019 12:07

It’s because they are both attractive. If they had been overweight, middle aged women, the boys wouldn’t even have noticed them. This was a sexual assault primarily and a homophobic attack second.

AngeloMysterioso · 07/06/2019 12:07

There usually is on London buses. Hopefully they can trace the thugs who did it via their oyster/payment cards.

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RuffleCrow · 07/06/2019 12:08

AngryAngryAngryAngryAngry

Absolutely sickening. This is where Incels, T/MRAs and their unashamed homophobia have led a previously civilised society. Stonewall, the Labour party et al, this is the culture you've helped to create.

CraftyWoman · 07/06/2019 12:10

This is where porn and lesbophobic hate meet. Men believe that lesbians are there purely for their sexual gratification and when they fail to deliver that, they deserve to be beaten.

OvaHere · 07/06/2019 12:11

Terrible. Those poor women. Sad

I wonder how much 'lesbian' porn the perpetrators consume?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 07/06/2019 12:12

The report I read said that 4 or the 5 were speaking Spanish. Hope cctv was working.

RuffleCrow · 07/06/2019 12:13

It's not 'because they are both attractive' Teddybear45 . It's because some bastards decided to humiliate and attack them. Put the act of violence squarely with the agent of violence where it belongs.

moofolk · 07/06/2019 12:14

That's outrageous. I feel totally safe in general out and about and fairly obviously a couple with my girlfriend but still can imagine this kind of thing on a bus.

What odious men.

moofolk · 07/06/2019 12:17

It's not 'because they are both attractive' Teddybear45 . It's because some bastards decided to humiliate and attack them. Put the act of violence squarely with the agent of violence where it belongs.

I don't think @Teddybear45 intended this as victim blaming but I was about to add that I can't imagine a group of men wanting to watch me and my partner kiss!

That they have been picked on for being young and attractive and gay is not in any way excusing the behaviour. These men are disgusting.

YouJustDoYou · 07/06/2019 12:17

Some of the comments in the Fail include such gems as "women do it too", "women can be just as bad", etc. Fucking sick of these misogynist pricks.

MangoesAreMyFavourite · 07/06/2019 12:19

Shocking!

YouJustDoYou · 07/06/2019 12:20

This is where porn and lesbophobic hate meet. Men believe that lesbians are there purely for their sexual gratification and when they fail to deliver that, they deserve to be beaten

^^This. Also, remember that transwoman who complained that lesbians were bigoted when not giving tw a "chance"? They only ever see lesbians as sexual objects that are there purely for their own sexual desires. Makes me rage

Teddybear45 · 07/06/2019 12:21

@RuffleCrow - definitely has to do with them being attractive. They would never have done this if the women involved were overweight / middle aged etc. This is a classic case of sexual assault primarily then a homophobic crime (which is a lesser crime with lesser penalties) - if they hadn’t been on a bus, maybe walking down a dark street, the boys would probably have tried to rape them after the beating. This type of thing happens a lot in London to attractive gay women.

BogglesGoggles · 07/06/2019 12:21

Terrible. Being a young person I tend to consider gay rights (in countries like Britain anyway) a given. But events like this show just how far we have to go as a society. I hope they find the attackers and punish them harshly. This should be treated as an act of sexual violence.

SomeDyke · 07/06/2019 12:25

but I was about to add that I can't imagine a group of men wanting to watch me and my partner kiss!

Because the point isn't the bastards enjoyment, the point is humiliating and scaring lesbians who are open about being lesbians. Just the means matters. So, when younger, when I kissed a woman in public, some creepy bloke followed us and was obviously getting off on it. Like the straight blokes who used to come to a mixed gay night and 'watch' the lesbians. As I got older, I would expect something more along the lines of 'you're so fucking ugly, no wonder you can't get a man' kind of stuff. I recall lesbians before on the Tube on their way to Pride being spat at. It's trying to remind woman and lesbians that public spaces aren't theirs, that being openly lesbian is still not safe. What I do find worrying here is the level of violence and the fact that it was a group of men in a very public place (a bus with hopefully CCTV).

And this is why we still need pride etc, it's not all corporate sponsorship and happy families, there are still men prepared to enact violence on women for not wanting them.

FloralBunting · 07/06/2019 12:26

Ok, I'd read the headline but I hadn't seen the picture and now I'm really upset. Flashback to when I was attacked after I kissed my then girlfriend goodbye at a train station in the 90's.

AngeloMysterioso · 07/06/2019 12:27

YouJustDoYou didn’t realise it was on there too- just had a look though and the top rated comments all seem to be in support of the women, which is almost a refreshing change for the DM!

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FloralBunting · 07/06/2019 12:29

And it wasn't because I was attractive and turned them on, it was because I was a baby butch and they were exerting control. Same thing for these women.

tobee · 07/06/2019 12:38

Just saw this.

No words. SadAngry

RuffleCrow · 07/06/2019 12:41

I really disagree. Teddybear. Women of all ages, weights, attractiveness levels etc get sexually assaulted by men. An old lady a few streets away from me was raped and murdered in her home by a young man (as safe an area as you're likely to come across).

For you to make it about appearance is a type of victim blaming - you're basically saying if they'd worked hard at a middle aged unnattractive disguise before they went out none of this would have happened. Forget about that - focus instead on what the fuck is wrong with men who behave this way. Angry

It's like the last season of Broadchurch was never aired, sometimes. Hmm

MythicalBiologicalFennel · 07/06/2019 12:45

Just read this and could not believe my eyes. Society is regressing so much in regards to women's rights. BBC said one attacker spoke Spanish and the others had British accents. It seems that the police attended quite quickly so how come the men were not arrested on the spot?

LangCleg · 07/06/2019 12:56

Vile, vile, vile.

OvaHere · 07/06/2019 13:05

Stonewall finally remembered that female lesbians exist and put out a statement. Although they cleverly manage to do it without mentioning the word lesbian.

www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us/news/stonewall-statement-homophobic-attack-london