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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Julie Bindel physically attacked after meeting

677 replies

MsMcWibble · 06/06/2019 05:39

Seems to have been carried out by well known TRA who has threatened violence before: twitter.com/bindelj/status/1136402563379716096

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Popchyk · 07/06/2019 10:49

We can have two fronts though surely?

The naice GC front and the spitting feathers GC front.

We'll get the gender ideologists in a pincer movement.

Justhadathought · 07/06/2019 10:50

Thank you all for the passion and education. I still don’t agree with you though

We're all different, don't forget.

What matters most, right now, is that we're all agreed on the damaging nature of trans ideology.

NotBadConsidering · 07/06/2019 10:51

Re: the Guardian, I was pissed off that they had a pic of Julie with their original headline on their home page of “LGBT+ committee members resign due to ‘transphobia’”. The juxtaposition of Julie next to that word was deliberate I’m sure. I’m pleased to see they’ve now changed it to read “...over speakers at feminist meeting”. 24 hours later. Hmm

They really are a bunch of dicks.

DuMondeB · 07/06/2019 10:52

I agree. No one on here is suggesting people with opposing views need to ‘die in a grease fire’ yet a prominent trans rights activist has said exactly that on Twitter.

We’re positively genteel in comparison. We didn’t even applaud rapey-joke-man Carl Benjamin getting milkshook!

Justhadathought · 07/06/2019 10:55

I'm confused Just - I was replying to ginger's post at 10.33?

Sorry! I'm confused too.

Hopefully ginger will come back and partake, now that we've discussed this particular issue in detail. Sounds like she's been around for years....so a little bit surprising that this thread, about the attack on Julie Bindel, should bring the issue of style and expression up.

JackyHolyoake · 07/06/2019 10:58

It's one way to derail a thread, innit? Takes the focus off the violent male person and shifts it to us women instead.

lorit · 07/06/2019 10:59

Honestly I think it's just female socialisation in action. It's fucking hard to stop your brain working like that, and many won't want to,

TheAngryLlama · 07/06/2019 11:01

I must be poorly socialised. I didn’t have much difficulty going straight to condemnation and staying there.
But I am not a very nice person.

NottonightJosepheen · 07/06/2019 11:01

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Outanabout · 07/06/2019 11:01

...and shifts it to how horrible GC women are

Popchyk · 07/06/2019 11:04

Julie on Twitter:

"Prick News just emailed, more-or-less calling me a liar, asking me to justify myself, and to 'clarify' some things in the light of the perp denying it all. I will leave it to your imagination how I responded".

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1136919865447632896

NottonightJosepheen · 07/06/2019 11:11

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Outanabout · 07/06/2019 11:11

"the perpetrator denying it all"

In the immortal words of Mandy Rice-Davies "Well he would, wouldn't he?"

ZebrasAreBras · 07/06/2019 11:12

Gingerginger - we got wise to "they go low we go high" garbage months ago. This is misogyny. A war on women. I will call this what it is, male violence against women.

Ereshkigal · 07/06/2019 11:19

Ugh. They just make themselves look creepier than ever. 'Demonise a young woman'.

They really do.

ZebrasAreBras · 07/06/2019 11:20

And isn't it just so surprising that Pink News are making out Julie lied. They so would. They know there are TRAs out there who are publicly threatening women with violence.

Benjamin wotsiface from Pink News just shrugged his shoulders on Politics Live when asked about Karen White raping women in a women's prison. They don't give a fuck. Women are lesser humans to them. The be-penised ones are supreme.

But oh, this attack on Julie, this, yet again, proves the women are right! There are violent males who identify as women who will harm women. Best call Julie Bindel a liar Angry

Datun · 07/06/2019 11:21

Honestly I think it's just female socialisation in action. It's fucking hard to stop your brain working like that, and many won't want to,

I agree. But I also think it gets worse when talking about transwomen.

If ginger had read something similar in the paper, a family man, say, who had subjected his wife (or women generally ) to threats and then finally waited for her and had to be restrained whilst spitting invective, calling her a fucking cunt. And we were describing him as a vile knobhead, or a bastard, I don't think ginger would turn a hair.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 07/06/2019 11:21

Like it or not you are not talking to your pals in a «safe space»

I think ginger you are confused about what a ‘safe space’ is - it is a space where speech is restricted, where the concerns of a subset of —men— individuals are centred, where robust language is not allowed in case it offends. These boards are not ‘safe spaces’ and don’t seek to be; they are a place where arguments can be made and points explored to get to the truth not to placate people.

HorsewithnoHoldsBarred · 07/06/2019 11:24

...not the same as saying that I’m not a fender critical feminist...

Those Stratocasters, eh? Nowt special.

Ereshkigal · 07/06/2019 11:26

They're no doubt on a conference call with Pink News working out their strategy for framing TattleTown as the poor victim of nasty Julie Bindel.

As far as PN goes you're clairvoyant.

ZebrasAreBras · 07/06/2019 11:27

Sadly so, Ereshkigal.

Ereshkigal · 07/06/2019 11:27

They're no doubt on a conference call with Pink News working out their strategy for framing TattleTown as the poor victim of nasty Julie Bindel.

As far as PN goes you're clairvoyant.

NottonightJosepheen · 07/06/2019 11:29

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Datun · 07/06/2019 11:32

Not only does the stuff that I am now reading about CB makes the words used here look positively tame, CB recognises only too well how tone policing women works in their favour.

Julie Bindel physically attacked after meeting
toomuchtooold · 07/06/2019 11:32

We can have two fronts though surely? The naice GC front and the spitting feathers GC front

Yeah! The nice front can kill them with kindness. Metaphorically. Before someone accuses me of espousing literal violence Hmm

What has happened in the last 10 years? There seem to be so many more total nutters about. I was really active in the LGBT community in the 90s and there were a few trans people but none of them were trying to co-opt womanhood in this way.

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