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Dearest MNHQ, please please please would you...

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ScottishDoll · 05/06/2019 16:54

change the details section here from Gender to SEX since that is what is actually being asked. Sex matters.

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S1naidSucks · 27/06/2019 18:57

Thank you. I had no idea there were non-feminists on the feminist board, which is why I've done by best to avoid them

Eh! Confused I really want to know what your definition of a feminist is?

OdeToDiazepam · 27/06/2019 19:05

Me too

Pinkyyy · 27/06/2019 19:11

@S1naidSucks well I don't know too much as like I said, I try to avoid discussions about feminism as I just can't stand the militant ones who always want to argue about something. You can tell me if I'm close.

I originally beloved that feminists were women who believed in equality across all areas between men and women. Now though, they just seem like crazy, aggressive people who think that men can be women and women can be men and babies should be gender neutral.

Pinkyyy · 27/06/2019 19:13

I meant that I'd avoided the feminist boards because I thought they were just for feminists. I realise that my previous post doesn't read very well.

dontdoxmeeither · 27/06/2019 19:13

Grrr @MichaelMumsnet why can't the question be sex? You know that some woke folk with the transAGENDA will look at their biological female toddler toddling around the garden and tick "boy" when she shoves a worm in her gob. HmmConfusedAngry

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 27/06/2019 19:15

Now though, they just seem like crazy, aggressive people who think that men can be women and women can be men

Yeah, You’re a bit confused there.

Pinkyyy · 27/06/2019 19:18

With respect @JoxerGoesToStuttgart I believe that you need to be a woman to be a feminist. And as you have told me you have no gender, your opinion is invalid. And you also seem to fit my description anyway.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 27/06/2019 19:25

😂😂😂

are you goading or just thick?

Pinkyyy · 27/06/2019 19:26

Please don't call me thick.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 27/06/2019 19:29

  1. you do not need to be a woman to be a feminist. Men can be feminists too.

  2. I have no gender. I do have a sex. My sex is female and I am an adult human, this means I am a woman. That’s literally the definition of woman: adult human female.

  3. my opinion doesn’t become invalid because you don’t understand the terms you are using.

  4. you might want to reread your description. I meet none of those criteria.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 27/06/2019 19:31

  1. I didn’t call you thick. I asked if you are. Either that or deliberately goading. Which is bit?

  2. you called me crazy.

Pinkyyy · 27/06/2019 19:32

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JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 27/06/2019 19:34

So goading then. Reported.

Pinkyyy · 27/06/2019 19:38

I haven't goaded. You're being contradictory and I'm struggling to get my head around what you're saying.

You say you have no gender, yet you're a woman? So if you're a woman then that is your gender.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 27/06/2019 19:44

NO!

Woman Is nothing to do with gender! It’s a descriptor of sex, species and age.

Woman= adult human female.

I haven’t contradicted anything. This has been explained to you several times on this thread.

S1naidSucks · 27/06/2019 19:48

Sorry, but men can NEVER be feminists, but they can be allies.

Also, please stop feeding the bull They’re obviously just here to goad.

Pinkyyy · 27/06/2019 19:50

So I can call you a woman if I'm referring to your sex, but not if I'm referring to your gender? What pronouns do you use? When did you realise that you had no gender?

S1naidSucks · 27/06/2019 19:52

I suspect someone is being goady for screen shots.

Pinkyyy · 27/06/2019 19:53

Sorry, but men can NEVER be feminists, but they can be allies.

This was my belief but @JoxerGoesToStuttgart says they can be?

I apologize if I'm coming across goady, my questions are all genuine. Like I've said, I've tried my best to steer clear of discussions surrounding feminism in the past so I'm no expert. But I'm trying to understand as best as I can.

Pinkyyy · 27/06/2019 19:53

Screen shots for what?

StoatofDisarray · 27/06/2019 20:37

Adding my vote - please change it.

EweSurname · 27/06/2019 20:47

pinkyyy Some feminists (like lib fems) tend to believe men can be women and vice versa.

Others (like rad fems) believe in sex being the basis of women’s oppression and try to liberate women from that.

Pinkyyy · 27/06/2019 20:53

@EweSurname thank you for the clarification. I wasn't really aware that there were as many strains of feminist, although I should have known. I struggle when it comes to the men can be women thing. I just can't see how anyone who says they are fighting for women's rights, could be happy with men taking advantage like that.

EweSurname · 27/06/2019 20:56

I don’t think you have to be a feminist (of any branch) to know that men can’t be women and women can’t be men. I’d wager most of the population would agree with that.

Pinkyyy · 27/06/2019 21:07

So what would you name the group of people who believe that?