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BBC Gaslighting again...

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NeurotrashWarrior · 30/05/2019 12:08

'I didn't understand what transgender was' www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-48453164

Look at the film.

Wife talks about mourning.

Transed partner talks at length about how they now do everything together and are so close.

There's more I'd add but I don't want to be deleted.

I'm glad they appear to be very happy; I feel terribly sad for the wife.

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TheInebriati · 30/05/2019 12:16

I'm starting to think that The Freedom Program should just be mandatory.

Thrupennybrit · 30/05/2019 12:23

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-hampshire-48439442/gym-class-where-muslim-women-can-take-off-their-hijabs

And then the BBC shows the requirement for sex segregation as entirely positive when for religious reasons. You can't have both BBC

nauticant · 30/05/2019 12:28

The statement that really caught my eye was the transwoman saying:

"So as a family we're kind of joined at the hip, we're with each other 24/7"

That didn't strike me as very healthy and reminded me of other closed groups.

OldCrone · 30/05/2019 12:28

What happens when Charlotte wants to join the all-women gym class?

Mumfun · 30/05/2019 12:45

Neurotrash felt exactly the same

And wondered about the constant togetherness . Would be interested in a follow up in 5 and 10 years.

But also feel there is just no balance at BBC anymore. They would never show the struggles of an abandoned trans widow in the same prominent position on website. Always uplifting and positive. Move on nothing to see here.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 30/05/2019 12:48

Kids are very accepting, that's what I see here.

'Now a female' - just no.

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CircleofWillis · 30/05/2019 12:52

Why didn't the girl introduce her other brother?

MsMcWibble · 30/05/2019 12:54

BBC should not get the licence fee. They don't represent women.
I never thought I'd be saying that.

ShouldBeCookingDinner · 30/05/2019 12:59

Now, now ladies...we're being given a lesson here on how to be dutiful wives and should be grateful for it. If this family can become closer through their understanding and love for each other, we can all become good people like them.

dragongirlx · 30/05/2019 13:35

It's supposed to be about how the whole family dealt with the transition but all they talk about is the trans person. And in every bit of the film the trans person is in they try to dominate the scene, from sitting on the couch with there legs up in the partners space to being the person who has to jump across the whole family, to pushing in front of the group when they are out.
Can we think of another group of people who try to dominate physical space.......

happydappy2 · 30/05/2019 14:05

Those poor kids, they love their parents, what choice do they have but to be supportIve. I just can’t see this as positive....why not be a man and wear make up?

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NeurotrashWarrior · 30/05/2019 14:28

Oh the sofa surf jump thing. Freud would have a field day.

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Justhadathought · 30/05/2019 14:47

All I can say is how utterly self-centred.......

And it just makes me realise even further how nonsensical this whole business is. How do you become a totally different person? You can't and you don't. What has really changed, apart from the assumption of opposite sex clothing and dress? It just seems to me to be an extended role play.

The talk of all being"just one unit" now that the father has 'transitioned'..what where they before? And is that excessive, new found closeness just a kind of trauma reaction? The son seems utterly bewildered.

Justhadathought · 30/05/2019 14:49

It's like they are talking about their special needs little sister.

FloralBunting · 30/05/2019 14:59

Uh-huh.

Nothing I can type about that which wouldn't be deleted.

I shall just leave it at 'self absorbed narc' and hope his family find a way to access helpful counselling at some point.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 30/05/2019 15:04

I don't think you need to transition to have a close family unit or to go out and have adventures. Hmm

What really struck out for me though is the way they refer to "Charlotte" it sounds (to me), like they are referring to a third party or concept rather than a parent.

nauticant · 30/05/2019 15:09

Yes, that sounded like a distancing mechanism.

FermatsTheorem · 30/05/2019 15:20

Yup, the joined at the hip, and the sofa jump bit had me thinking "more red flags than a communist party convention."

But worst of all - watch the wife's face carefully while her former husband speaks to camera - it's heartbreaking. If ever a woman needed the trans widows thread...

kaldefotter · 30/05/2019 15:21

I think Agnieszka's body language and facial expressions (when Charlotte is talking) betray that family life is not how they are presenting it to the BBC film crew.

If only someone could reassure Agnieszka that she doesn't need to live like that.

Outanabout · 30/05/2019 15:32

24/7 togetherness in case other opinions might be heard

beenandgoneandbackagain · 30/05/2019 15:44

Ugh - the side eye given when the wife talks about mourning for a person who was lost.

It's female socialisation and the desire to keep the family unit together whatever the personal cost absolutely personified.

LikeothersIamjustme · 30/05/2019 15:56

Charlotte comes across as a complete coxk. That poor wife, I just wanted to give her a hug, she looks so dejected and broken.

Outanabout · 30/05/2019 16:02

The wife looked like she was struggling not to cry at one stage. It's all about Charlotte, isn't it? The children feeling sorry for and defending the parent. I hope the family is as happy as they appear on the surface, but it seems quite exploitative to make a programme about them. How can the children say anything but how happy they are? They must be under pressure from outside all the time, making them feel defensive, if what they say is true about remarks being made at/about Charlotte.

HollowTalk · 30/05/2019 16:33

It made me think that Charlotte didn't do anything with the family beforehand, given it's better now.

I feel so sorry for the children.

LikeothersIamjustme · 30/05/2019 16:43

*It made me think that Charlotte didn't do anything with the family beforehand, given it's better now.

I feel so sorry for the children.*

Agreed. It appears that Charlotte only cares about Charlotte. Appears to be a running theme of those former males.

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