BBC Gaslighting again...

[NeurotrashWarrior]

'I didn't understand what transgender was' www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-48453164

Look at the film.

Wife talks about mourning.

Transed partner talks at length about how they now do everything together and are so close.

There's more I'd add but I don't want to be deleted.

I'm glad they appear to be very happy; I feel terribly sad for the wife.

I know I am so sick of that sexist make-up crap. NONE of make-up, dresses, painted nails, long hair etc are exclusive to women and they should be becoming more acceptable for everyone to wear, not less. Why has society conveniently forgotten the 80s, not to mention the restoration, ancient Egypt and countless other examples.

I want to scream every time I hear this bollocks that some bloke is attracted to wearing make-up or a dress so that is somehow evidence that he's really a woman. Gah!

It fecking pissed me off in the trailer for the Danish Girl as well (didn't see the whole film) where he is posing for a photo and becomes entranced with the pretty silk fabric. THAT DOESN"T MAKE YOU A WOMAN FFS it means you like the fabric!

he is posing for a photo and becomes entranced with the pretty silk fabric. THAT DOESN"T MAKE YOU A WOMAN FFS it means you like the fabric!

It's a serious thread, really, but I must say this made me laugh and it's an excellent point.

The most traction I get when discussing this, sidestepping all the stupid sleight of hand with chromosomes etc. is when a male trans person describes what makes them 'a woman' and it's always something that is actually really arbitrary. That bit in the Danish Girl which is presented as such an epiphany for Eddie Redmayne's character is just a man enjoying soft fabric against his skin. Why would that have anything to do with his sex?

Actually I've realised I said photo but it's a painting - but anyway.

Also its not as if there haven't been thousands of men who have liked pretty fabric/make-up and run with it. Fashion designers, theatre actors, goths, fabric merchants, stylists, and of course those men like Grayson Perry and Jonathan van Ness, who just say fuck it I'll wear this because I like it. And somehow have managed to reconcile that with still being a man. Because it's not hard - you just have to not be a narrow-minded sexist.

If someone truly feels dysmorphic and that they are the wrong sex, I'm sorry for them, it must be distressing. But if they feel like that because they like make-up, or anything else supposedly "gendered" when it actually isn't, I just feel so frustrated and annoyed.

I mean oh look I just put a shelf up, oh yeah I must be a man! Grrr

that is not a happy family. as a pp said, watching with the sound off it was apparent that 'the mum' (who doesn't ever seem to be introduced by name) couldn't stop rolling her eyes. and the elder brother is not happy about the situation AT ALL.

tone deaf piece by the BBC - what are they thinking of?

I hope those children are able to find fulfilling and happy lives beyond the intense, 24/7, non-stop fun that Charlotte has decided they must all have at all times. And I hope Agnieszka is, at some point, allowed to grieve for the loss of her husband.

Charlotte's autobiography is available at Amazon. www.amazon.co.uk/Whole-Shenanigans-Charlottes-Story-ebook/dp/B071VXWR2T?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

I think I'll save my money.
Not sure how 59 pages could ever count as a book but if the video is anything to go by I suspect 5 pages would be too much to bear.

Still thinking about this

Poor May, living up to her female socialisation, appeasing her father, trying to pretend everything is fine and to hold her family together

I feel so sad for her

And now on CBeebies...

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I agree, referring to their "mum" as 'charlotte' is so weird and distancing! And the side-eye when the mum touched on the subject of mourning, hastily covered up by 'we have fun alllll the time'

So irritating that make up = woman

I watched the cbeebies one on my phone - am I imagining it, or has it been edited to remove some of the wider shots of both parents so that the reactions can't be seen so clearly?

I've just seen this on Facebook and one of the comments is from a young girl who was in the same situation. She said that the hardest thing is that she can't mourn her father's disappearance. She isn't allowed to mourn him because now, it's all about the trans person and they have to be made happy.
I agree with the comments here, the wife is barely holding it together. Why and for what reason has this ideology become so mainstream?
Who is pushing this agenda? Because someone somewhere is pushing the lie that Human beings can change sex.