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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC Gaslighting again...

86 replies

NeurotrashWarrior · 30/05/2019 12:08

'I didn't understand what transgender was' www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-48453164

Look at the film.

Wife talks about mourning.

Transed partner talks at length about how they now do everything together and are so close.

There's more I'd add but I don't want to be deleted.

I'm glad they appear to be very happy; I feel terribly sad for the wife.

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HollowTalk · 30/05/2019 16:46

Nobody really asks the wife how she feels - it's not just as though the man she married has died, it's that she has to pretend he is a woman and accept he wants 99% of the attention forever more.

CarolDanvers · 30/05/2019 16:54

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TheBitterBoy · 30/05/2019 16:58

It feels like the BBC news website has something trans related every few days at the moment. I just roll my eyes, but I do wonder what the rest of the less aware general population make of it.

BiologyNotBigotry · 30/05/2019 17:08

When one of the DC was talking about Charlotte not wanting to go out after hearing comments I wondered if that was the reason they did so much together - the children have taken on a protective role & don't want to leave Charlotte in case anyone says anything that might upset them & result in Charlotte moping around the house making everything miserable. Anything to keep Charlotte happy.

Of course it seems "normal" to the DC after a few years. "Normal" is just the status quo that someone's got used to, that doesn't make it a healthy environment.

I really felt for the mum - she looked like she wanted to say something while Charlotte was wittering on about their super fun day trips but Charlotte just kept on talking, seemingly oblivious. The mum just looked worn down.

OrchidInTheSun · 30/05/2019 17:20

That is not a happy family. That's a family pretending t be happy to pander to a narcissist

Outanabout · 30/05/2019 17:22

Biology - that hadn't occurred to me, but I think you're right. The family is Charlotte's safety blanket when they go out. What happens when Charlotte goes to work? How do they manage 24/7 togetherness? My heart breaks for the wife, trying to keep up the pretence that everything is fine.

Mxyzptlk · 30/05/2019 17:46

Agnieszka's body language and facial expressions (when Charlotte is talking) betray that family life is not how they are presenting it to the BBC film crew.
Definitely Sad

the children have taken on a protective role
Or Charlotte has told them that 24hr togetherness is needed to keep Charlotte happy.

owlonabike · 30/05/2019 22:16

Dear god, the mother looks haunted. And how does Charlotte have the utter gall to say that family life is much better now , in front of the woman who took Charlotte as a partner in good faith and who bore Charlotte’s children? How can Charlotte just dismiss that shared history? I am so bloody angry at the sheer insensitivity and entitlement.

LizzieSiddal · 30/05/2019 22:49

The BBC’s message is-

You too can have a happy, close family, if your dad becomes your mum. And it’s all perfectly normal.

The worst bit for me was the mother saying when he came out, it was like a bereavement, but a couple of days later, she was ok! That is not normal or healthy.

This film is minimising the heartbreak, confusion and trauma and is totally inappropriate from the BBC.

Marilla27 · 30/05/2019 23:10

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Chiochan · 30/05/2019 23:38

Yup, think the BBC has some emotional safeguarding issues that will really look bad in times to come.
They just dont learn do they.

thegreatcrestednewt · 30/05/2019 23:50

‘The family has become more one unit instead of five individuals - really??

And all that was required for this was for dad to become charlotte?? Wtf??

thegreatcrestednewt · 30/05/2019 23:52

God, did you see Charlotte’s side eye and expression when poor Agnieska was talking about HER feelings? Charlotte doesn’t give the tiniest fuck.

KittensinaBlender · 31/05/2019 01:30

‘The family has become more one unit instead of five individuals”

Right!

Well other people often are bit parts in the drama of a narcs life.

KittensinaBlender · 31/05/2019 01:47

I like the way bog standard parenting has been rebranded as “an adventure”.

Yet again a male gets feted for basic parenting. Spending time with your kids does not make you stunning and brave even when you do it with some lippy on. Hmm

2BthatUnnoticed · 31/05/2019 03:18

I saw somewhere that about 450 members of BBC’s workforce are transwomen (for less than 1% of the population, surely this is high? Not sure). It didn’t come across as impartial at all.

floraloctopus · 31/05/2019 03:40

It's very charlotte lived happily ever after and sod everybody else isn't it ?

Fedupwithchemist · 31/05/2019 04:28

“Amazing female”

WTF

Can the world get any madder?

Justhadathought · 31/05/2019 10:42

Charlotte does not present as a responsible parent, but as a child/teenager. Jumping on the sofa, roller blading along the promenade.......This is not normal at all.

floraloctopus · 31/05/2019 11:03

There's nothing wrong with the roller blading - go to Chicago (and other such cities) and it's not unusual to see adults roller blading by the lake but they are much better at it

beenandgoneandbackagain · 31/05/2019 11:13

I saw somewhere that about 450 members of BBC’s workforce are transwomen (for less than 1% of the population, surely this is high? Not sure). It didn’t come across as impartial at all.

A friend of mine worked at the BBC a few years ago (she left 4 years ago). Her role involved her travelling throughout England, and spending a great deal of time at Broadcasting House, so she knew a lot of staff there. There were no transgender people working there at the time, at least not visibly transgender, though there were a lot of lesbians and gay men, and also a few bi people. It is the kind of environment where if someone was transgender it would definitely have been accepted.

She is not sure how or why this explosion in people identifying as trans has happened, and yes, it is disproportionate to the population as a whole, but would explain the relentless number of "trans is harmless and fun" items appearing almost daily on their website.

Infiltration.

JamB4cream · 31/05/2019 11:14

Agnieszka looks on the brink of tears during that film, especially on the sofa interview around 1.45, she looks haunted, how could the film maker not see that? Or did they see that and just not care?

Flowers Agnieszka

OldCrone · 31/05/2019 11:18

She is not sure how or why this explosion in people identifying as trans has happened

Probably because it makes straight men into the 'most vulnerable' people on the planet, so we all have to accommodate their needs and wants. And as well as vulnerable and persecuted, they're also brave and stunning. What's not to like if you're a narcissist?

beenandgoneandbackagain · 31/05/2019 11:30

What's not to like if you're a narcissist?

Plenty of those at the BBC Grin

CarolDanvers · 31/05/2019 11:39

My previous post was deleted. I wasn't offensive imvho I just said that it didn't look like Charlotte, who is supposedly now "Mum" too was picking up any of the Wife Work. Looks to me like Charlotte spends a lot of time coming up with fun stuff, while the actual Mum - Agnieszka does all the work to support the "fun".

Intolerable situation. They all appear to be slaves to Charlottes whims.

Years ago when I kind of supported, though didn't believe TWAW!!! I remember wondering to myself how any child/wife could learn to deal with their Dad/husband "becoming a woman" because I knew it wasn't something I could ever accept. I squashed those thoughts down as being "wrong" but I watch that video and see exactly the horror of finding yourself in that situation, to have your whole life turned upside down so publicly on the whim of one member of the family, and these days being socially forced to accept it or be labelled a hater or transphobic. This is a living nightmare for the wives and families being forced to accept it.

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