Caroline F and Pride

[Angryresister]

post edited by MNHQ - two petition links deleted

I have a lot of sympathy for Caroline since she was attacked for her gender critical views. However I had a petition in my feed with her name at the top objecting to Disney LGBT Pride. I have objections too to some of the displays of S and M stuff, don't like sex in public etc, but I think she is wrong to include us all in what she objects to. I think there is a problem with Pride being associated with a major children and family brand, but I really hate that lesbians are included in the things not to like category,
I would not take children to these events but I guess one day a year is not a lot to deprive them of the Disney experience....

The Walt Disney brand was once a byword for wholesome family-friendly entertainment.

This weekend Disneyland Paris is holding a Gay Pride parade.

These events are notorious for sexually explicit costumes and displays of lewd behaviour.

Sign here now to stop the indoctrination of young children and keep Disneyland safe for families.

SIGN
Dear......

Warning: Disney parks are no longer family friendly!

Disney is flaunting their new partnership with the “LGBTQ” community as they plan to host their very first gay pride parade this upcoming Saturday, June 1st, at Disneyland Paris. This event is an expansion from a small party they promoted in the park last year and will be the first outright parade celebrating the gay lifestyle.

The growth of gay pride events at Disney is not limited to its Paris location. At Universal Studios Hollywood, in Southern California, Disney is helping to organize the “Pride Is Universal” event that will also take place this Saturday. And, the expansion of “Gay Days,” which are held every August at Walt Disney World in Florida.

Sign here: www.citizengo.org/en-gb/fm/170941-stop-lgbt-indoctrination-disneyland

This is a deceptive move to push the LGBT political agenda and expose children and families to lewd behavior.

Similar parades around the world are notorious for exposing viewers to:

Participants wearing only their underwear or leather bondage gear
Topless dancers
Lewd dancing
People engaging in public sex acts
Semi-nude or completely nude people
Around 157 million people visited Disney parks in 2018. Disney is an empire built on attracting families with children. Gay pride-related events are very public with the potential to become an X-rated peep show. How many of this Saturday’s 430,000 park attendees do you think will be exposed?

I’m sure the LGBT lobby is already counting this as a victory for their dangerous agenda. This is not about promoting love or diversity but the deliberate violation of boundaries and the imposition of Queer Theory and gender ideoelogy.

We cannot sit idle and remain voiceless while gay pride events are targeting family-friendly venues. Join this call to action to stand against Disney’s attempt to indoctrinate our children in an entertainment area that is intended for all audiences.

We only have a short time to act on this call to action.

Sincerely,

Caroline Farrow and the rest of the CitizenGO team

PS It is only a few days until this event takes place. Sign today.

Yes popchyk I think that is what I was getting at too

There are lots of different interest groups that oppose the transactivist's agenda.

Feminists
People interested in child safeguarding
People interested in health (child and adult)
Transsexuals
Detransitioners and desisters
People who care about free speech
Religious people
Right wing people
Outright homophobic bigots

I've probably missed some groups of people.

You won't necessarily agree with any other group on anything except that the transactivist's agenda needs challenging.

Careful, single issue political alliances may be possible with some groups but only if there are strong boundaries around areas where there will never be agreement and only if everybody is made aware of what they're signing up to and how far any particular alliance stretches. That way we can all make our own decisions about who we feel comfortable working with, on what issues and how far.

To be clear, this has nothing to do with the concept of 'allies' in the woke sense of the word.

I'm happy to link to the recent recording of the Mermaids training session and the transcript, even though both have come from Christian Concern.

soundcloud.com/christianconcern/lgbt-group-mermaids-training-teachers-and-governors-at-a-church-of-england-primary-school/s-BRUBN

t.co/DaeD2TNzgU

I'm not happy to sign anything on CitizenGo and I'm not happy with the wording of this petition.

Disney's 'Magical Pride' event deserves a different thread. They have advertised a pride event without ever mentioning the words gay, lesbian, bi, bisexual, trans, LGBT, LGBTQ or anything. It's a non-specific invitation:

Live your best life and shine with the joy of diversity at Magical Pride, a dazzling party lighting up Disneyland Paris on 1st June 2019.

Dress like a dream, feel fabulous and experience Walt Disney Studios Park like never before - loud, proud and alive with all the colours of the rainbow!

Aimed at children.

That petition popped up on my Facebook feed today. I clicked through, confused as to its context.

I feel attacked as a lesbian because this petition arrived in my personal email with my name. I am not happy about that. Why can't I say that?

It might have turned up in emails or personal Facebook feeds because you've previously signed and/or shared petitions on that website. I don't sign petitions on Citizen Go for that reason: I don't want them to have my data because I don't align with the overall view of the site even if, from time to time, I agree with a specific petition.

Careful, single issue political alliances may be possible with some groups but only if there are strong boundaries around areas where there will never be agreement and only if everybody is made aware of what they're signing up to and how far any particular alliance stretches. That way we can all make our own decisions about who we feel comfortable working with, on what issues and how far.

This.

Gosh thats the second CitizenGo petition that Caro has started recently then.

There's one about children/transgenderism she also started but decided not to put her name on. She wasny very upfront about it.

We were discussing it on here recently.

I don't sign CitizenGo petitions.

Its worth reading about the platform (as always)

Hmmm... Seems to me a disproportionate amount of threads get started in FWR with CF named in the title . And yes, links have to be specifically formatted to work in an OP.

What an odd thread

*This weekend Disneyland Paris is holding a Gay Pride parade.

These events are notorious for sexually explicit costumes and displays of lewd behaviour.*

I think LGBT people can understand that different places have different codes of behaviour. I'm sure the only semi nudity will be from Donald, the only one in a collar will be Pluto, and the idea of people dressed in furry animal costumes at a Disney park is ridiculous.

The majority of LGBT individuals would not support the fetish and BDSM angle at Pride, I don't think.

D you think this is true? I have wondered about it. Anecdotally anyone I know well enough to have discussed it with think so, but the I thought my own friends would have a self-selection bias. Since Pride seems to be that way in pretty much every city, even in different countries, there must be a lot of people who think it is fine or like it. Or is there some sort of international organisation around it?

Caroline Farrow is a right-wing woman who correctly believes that there's no such thing as a female penis. She's gone through a lot of persecution because of her beliefs. It's good to respect her commitment to opposing genderism.

I can kind of understand this, if I think of the last Pride I went to..there was a lot of nudity/partial nudity, and yes, guys going about in gimp suits and that. Definitely not the sparkly bright rainbow party DSS was expecting..I did warn him but he thought I was just being a prude. I think fairly recently there has been a bit of a large shift in Pride stuff.

However, I wouldn't sign this..the wording is dodgy as hell in places. I did sign a citizen go one a few days back on something else, but that was when I thought it was just a..well regular petition site!

Having said this, I will not attack Caroline for her views either (though I disagree strongly on some positions). Caroline seems to be getting the Posie treatment now..where a weird amount of threads seem to be there specifically to get others to denounce her or something.

I thought Disney was very conservative though? Eg Performers can't have visible tattoos?
Not sure therefore how adult their LGBT parade could be in that case...

The Disneyland Pride sounds bloody awesome to be honest - Years and Years are playing live, Boy George is DJing, there's a Disney Lip Sync Singalong. I don't see what the problem is. My kids go to the Pride event near us every August - they have facepainting, we have rainbow leis on, it's always family-friendly and if an 8 year old and a 6 year old don't give a shit about drag queens or leather daddies (and they don't) then Won't somebody think of the children? seems a bit reactionary.
So nope, I wouldn't be signing.

I personally find it difficult when I agree with some things and not others.

I would have thought this was a normal state of affairs. Do you have a group of friends with whom you are in agreement about everything?

I won’t be signing, I’m driving there today so I can see a friend perform.

If people are worried about their children seeing a march why would they buy tickets to a private event?!

shrug got no problem with it. She’s entitled to her political views. Can’t say I entirely disagree with her either - it’s been a long time since pride actually had a lot/anything to do with gay rights, and it was not originally envisaged as a fun, child friendly glitter party.

I heard some news about Disney on the radio this morning. Apparently they could up sticks and move their business to another state because of the so-called heartbeat law in Louisiana.

Disney is all about making money, they don't care who they make money off. Rainbow capitalism is huge, this year especially.

The furries will love it! Pluto, Minnie and the gang.

Then there's the princesses! Perfect examples of helpless, brave and stunning, women.

I worked on a project with Disney once. They ate us alive. Lol

It's all capitalism, if people want to spend their money on it. Fair enough.

If Carro wants to complain. Fair enough.

I'm bisexual and I agree with her. Pride now has nothing to do with promoting acceptance of same sex love - it has become a men's sexual rights movement with an emphasis on their fetishes and paraphilias. Completely inappropriate for a children's theme park. Let kids be kids.

This was not intended as an attack, but I see why some might think that. Pride is not for me any more , as I agree it's generally a men's fetish fest where GC lesbians are not welcome. But I do not think the LGB should be grouped together with the T . And wish others would not do so , whatever their agendas.

"It has become a men's sexual rights movement with an emphasis on their fetishes and paraphilias".

Bang on.

And a lot of these men are heterosexual and are there because their kinks are enthusiastically welcomed under the 'queer' banner.

My mate worked at Disney for a bit. I'm sure they had rules like, female workers must wear make up, and make workers mustn't have beards....

Or did I just imagine that?

Lesbian here saying meh. Homophobes gonna be homophobic. twas ever thus. People are allowed their oppinions, even when I don’t like them.

I doubt there’ll be much nudity and depravity at Disney. I’ve never viewed Disney as being particularly wholesome anyway but I doubt thousands of angry complaints from parents about public displays of BDSM and overt sexual behaviour is what they want, so I can’t get especially outraged about it.

There are far more concerning things about what the pride movement has become, corporatisation being just one of them, of which this is a symptom not a cause.

I didn’t know Citizen Go was a Catholic platform. For some reason I’ve looked at their petitions but never signed so fortunately I don’t get them pop up unless someone else shares.

I think Caroline is perfectly entitled to her views and to use her preferred sites for starting petitions. I think everyone else is perfectly entitled to support or not support petitions for any reason, including the site that hosts them.

I don't sign petitions on Citizen Go because I don't want that particular site to have my details which they may use to email me or for other petitions they host - and to which I object - to pop up on my social media feeds. Nothing to do with Caroline. If I agreed with a petition she started on another site, I would sign it

I didn’t know Citizen Go was a Catholic platform. For some reason I’ve looked at their petitions but never signed so fortunately I don’t get them pop up unless someone else shares.

from Wiki:

"CitizenGO is an ultraconservative advocacy group founded in Madrid, Spain, in 2013 by HazteOir.

The foundation promotes petitions in 50 countries, including petitions defending Christian and Catholic causes, and those opposing same-sex marriage, abortion, and euthanasia."

There are some ultra-conservative groups which seem to bridge Christian denominations.
When I was trying to work out what the pastoral care assistant may have promoted I went down a bit of a rabbit hole.

It really is always worth being careful to establish which platform you might be lending support /data.

It bothers me greatly when things aren't transparent and I (as in any situation) regard that as a red flag.

The last one I signed of Caros, this is the first time I have been emailed by tem about another, which is weird as I am sure I have signed a few on there. Change..email me daily. Some I am interested in but most I am not.

Pride will probably be back to rainbow fluffy fun in disney. The one I went to was..well Newcastle..which maybe speaks for itself, we are not well known for wearing clothes in general

I do have a lot of gay mates who are disillusioned with Pride and stuff though. As its become about money, rather than acceptance. They also get mightily pissed off with stuff like the lgbt sandwich by M&S as, M&S are donating a whole 10k, meanwhile pribably making 10x that just off using rainbow branding! So they see it as a chance for companies to get their woke cookies but actually profit hugely. mind, this does tend to be older gay people, who did actually have to fight for acceptance, the younger ones think its great and (luckily) have not really been treat the way older gays have.

This matter is odd, as I am actually allowed an opinion on it as everyone knows I am bi. Other topics I try to talk about I am shouted down and told my voice is utterly unimportant, usually. The perils of mainly hanging round with lefties.