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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jonathan Yaniv

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invinoveritaserum · 29/05/2019 09:48

Having familiarised myself with this person, how in the name of holy fuck has he not been arrested? He seems to be laughing at people while hiding in plain sight. So very, very disturbing.

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NiceGerbil · 17/06/2021 01:22

What an interesting piece. I have never heard of her before btw. And I'm not Canadian so have no feel for how society works iyswim.

Anyway.

My read of that is that she is essentially insecure. Lacking in strength in her core beliefs.

If you have thought something through, read all the stuff, listened to your core values. And keep going back and checking. Have I missed something. And it's something you really care about.

And you come to a conclusion. Then that is what you think. It is your truth. Your genuine deeply felt opinion.

I don't understand why you would change that unless there was a new piece of information. People disagreeing with you is not new information. It just makes things a bit tricky.

She also seems to have got a bit obsessed which is odd. Throwing herself into this or that.

And the right wing thing. Yes I can understand that discomfort. But they weren't all like that. Did she argue with them? Did she consider splitting off s different group? I mean I find it hard to believe that a load of the women were saying abortion should be banned etc and the other women all just sat there in silence!

And she could have left and found others. Or just had her opinion on her own and not be in groups.

Her idea that she was 'aligning' with their views is peculiar. Why so doubting of herself and her rationale?

There is also the currently dominant approach of the personal/ individual over looking at things as a whole.

The views of some other women tarnished her somehow. Her friends and family didn't agree. Her child didn't like it.

So she did a 180.

What is also lacking is nuance. It's this side or that side. All or nothing. What is missing is her updated view on JY. Are they ok now? A woman? The things they've done were fine and right?

It's all very unconvincing and I think that's because she does not have either the courage of her convictions, or pays too much heed to others and not enough to her own intellect, underlying beliefs etc.

In short.

It's a bit weak really isn't it.

NiceGerbil · 17/06/2021 01:25

Canada have put themselves in an impossible position.

JY has done all sorts of stuff. Over time. And keep at it.

They cannot imprison JY because it would be a women's prison and they know that's not s good idea.

So they have painted themselves into s corner. One in which a very well known very dubious individual is essentially above the law.

Manderleyagain · 17/06/2021 19:20

I saw this, and remember her from a couple of years ago when she wrote the article turning to being gender critical. There is a lack of security and core beliefs that comes through in the turncoat article. But, I can imagine it must have been rather traumatising, like as pp says being an atheist in an evangelical town, but without a really ingrained and long held conviction, only fairly recent. She's trying to mend the situation and ho back to before.

It's fair enough to disagree with methods and other political views of the other Canadian gc women. But what I kept coming back to is that the things that troubled her about the gender identity beliefs and movement (not just jy) will still trouble her. Shevwont have fixed that. I wonder if she would be willing to go through her feminist current article and argue against herself.

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