NUS women's campaign to lobby Mumsnet

[GrimDamnFanjo]

To stop facilitating transphobia apparently.
According to the Labour Students women's officer .

Are they going have a lay down in their safe spaces when actual grown ups tell them to get lost I wonder?

So we're to look forward to an influx of students? That'll be interesting. Though perhaps not that many students, given the number of likes and retweets...

Just noticed that LM is @reallilymadigan. Like Donald Trump. Delusions of grandeur it seems.

I had not seen this clip of Lily before

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155480203991939&id=6622931938&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FChannel4News%2Fvideos%2Flabours-first-trans-womens-officer-lily-madigan-says-she-can%2F10155480203991939%2F&_rdr

Explaining the motivation for her first taking on a women’s role, and why she is well qualified. Less than three minutes so a treat before supper.

Are they going have a lay down in their safe spaces when actual grown ups tell them to get lost I wonder?

Like the video of the 'protest' in some university where they all lay on the floor and drummed their heels while filming themselves on their mobile phones like a bunch of giant toddlers?

I'm shaking in my camper boots.

like a bunch of giant toddlers

Considering the amount of cross over with Adult Baby fetishes that may have been what they were going for.

What influence do they think they have? Delusional in so many ways.....

That Facebook clip says page not found...

I’m just humming the Dads Army these here.

Great idea, NUS!

Lobby means to persuade and seek to influence.

Why not come in for a webchat and let the people of Mumsnet put questions to you. Go on, persuade us.

Do women have a penises? Can a man be a lesbian? What sex are non-binary people? Can a man compete in a woman's sport - why?

So many unanswered questions - and we'd love to listen to your reasoning.

Get your diary out and let's talk.

Well it did almost look as if the NUS have been hiding away for these past months because they didn’t want to answer any questions about Jess Bradley the trans officer and some questions around serious sexually-related creepiness.

So that’s good if they now are back around to be answering questions. (These are all set out on Mumsnet threads, if anyone wants to know more.)

Jess Bradley (trans officer) suspended by NUS following allegations of flashing.
Allegations of sexual harrassment against Bradley have also been made to Proud Trust & Action For Trans Health

threads:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3320513-Jess-Bradley-first-transgender-student-officer-suspended-after-flashing-photos

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3321764-Jess-Bradley-suspended-Part-II

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3323623-Who-is-really-funding-Jess-Bradleys-defence

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3325623-Jess-Bradley-a-government-advisor-on-womens-rights-suspended-by-NUS-over-indecent-blog-Part-iii

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3520762-Jess-Bradley-government-advisor-and-suspended-NUS-Trans-Officer-Part-iv

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3451134-Rose-of-Dawn-on-need-for-accountability-in-the-NUS-and-Action-For-Trans-Health-re-Jess-Bradley-allegations

Needmoresleep - horrible feminists shouldn't be allowed to speak, as the lovely Lily is so much more nicerer like what women should be.

but why the focus on Mumsnet
why not lobby reddit, kiwifarms and a variety of other sites with much much less stringent moderation of language and phrasing

I think you misunderstand. When they say lobby mumsnet about transphobia they mean get mumsnet towers to make you lot STFU. Their is no intention to debate the issue because TRA ideology wilts under scrutiny and you'd make balloon animals out of the poor things. God help that these woke clowns ever have to think or defend a position.

Well again, mnhq will be quaking in their campers.

Even KF has stopped talking about them

Really?

Wow....

They must be devastated

but why the focus on Mumsnet

I started last year didn't it?

Apil 2018 MN FWR was discussing an NUS Womans conference workshop 'How to Deal With Terfs' which had been run by two male transpeople

The NUS officer who had created the slideshow was upset & shouted out to mates to try to shut it down.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3222263-Slide-show-on-How-to-Deal-with-TERFs

One of the friends was Emma Healey (MN intern)

Emma Healey said she had already decided to go public about the transphobia she had witnessed during her time at MNTowers. In her expose, she breached some members' data.

Eden Ladleye who ran the 'How to Deal With Terfs' workshop is now standing for NUS Trans Officer & Mumsnet even got a mention in Eden's election leaflets.

Quaking we are

LM can barely string together a sentence that makes any sense at all.
Is that really the standard they accept at Goldsmiths?

NUSWomens' officer is Rachel Watters. I don't agree with her priorities but she's got real experience and passion in the areas of reproductive rights. Her Bio is very impressive. Very next-gen though: intersectionality (lots and lots of mention of intersectionality) and the legalization of prostitution

Sorry, but I sense a tangent that I'm unsure of. Can you explain what you mean by 'reproductive rights'? And what is Rachels' experience in this area?

Have to say my understanding of intersectionality is that it originated in Queer Theory - which was a rejection of radical feminism, along with an embracing of gay male culture - especially as it relates to pornography( as central to gay male identity & culture), and prostitution. Kind of a Neo-Liberal politics of consumerism and individuality.

Rowan, Eden Ladleye appears to be NUS LGBT+ Officer (Women's Place) for 2018-2019. If they have the woman's place I assume they are lesbian. Or can transwomen take LGBT roles ringfenced for women and be attracted to men? Ie T but not LGB. But in which case you would not have anyone representing the L.

I am confused,. But all solved now, if they are a Trans officer for 2019-20.

Ladleye and Bradley both look about 30. How relevant is all of this to the students who pay NUS dues?

Sorry, but I sense a tangent that I'm unsure of. Can you explain what you mean by 'reproductive rights'? And what is Rachels' experience in this area?
She has been active in abortion rights campaigning in Northern Ireland. Previously Womens officer for NUS-USI.
Centring womens issues is a good thing surely?

Rowan, Eden Ladleye appears to be NUS LGBT+ Officer (Women's Place) for 2018-2019. If they have the woman's place I assume they are lesbian. Or can transwomen take LGBT roles ringfenced for women and be attracted to men? Ie T but not LGB. But in which case you would not have anyone representing the L.

Eden Ladleye is a a male transperson so no not a lesbian.
Within NUS women's places can be taken by those who identify as both transwomen & non-binary transwomen (eg Jess Bradley / Rowan Davies who was responsible for the slideshow)

Eden Ladleye has been LGBT+ Women's Place officer and is now standing for the position of NUS trans officer. No idea if anyone else is standing.

Ladleye, Bradley & Madigan appeared on a Young Labour panel togeher just before Bradley was suspended by NUS last year.

Since Bradley's suspension Eden Ladleye & Rob Noon (also close friend with JB) seem to have been the main NUS trans representatives.

Rob Noon is a female transperson & also holds an NUS officer position: LGBT+ open place

'NUS LGBT+ Officers Eden Ladley and Rob Noon share their plans for LGBT+ History Month this February.'
www.nusconnect.org.uk/articles/our-plans-for-lgbt-history-month-2019

NUS Women's 2019:

Motion 105: No women in men’s prisons, and an end to prisons once and for all
Submitted by: Eden Ladley
Union: NUS
Zone: Society and Citizenship
Women’s Conference Believes

1. The picture for women in prison on paper alone establishes there are severe problems with the justice system in the UK:

a) 47% of prisoners re-offend within one year. b) 53% of women in prison are survivors of sexual violence. c) 49% of women in prison have depression or anxiety. d) 67% of women in prison for killing somebody close to them were abused by that person. e) 46% of women in prison reported attempting suicide at some point in their lives. f) 66% of women in prison have dependent children under 18. g) In the last decade the women’s prison population has risen by 33% g.i) Two thirds being in prison for non-violent offences.

1. Patterns of women’s incarceration (and all incarceration) are exacerbated by multiple axes of oppression. Migrant women, working class women, disabled women, women of colour (especially black women), LGB women, trans women and sex workers are disproportionately impacted.

1. The issue of trans women in women’s prisons has become a lightning rod topic in the media. Rather than looking at the high suicide rate of trans women in both women’s and men’s prisons,

disproportionate emphasis has been put on trans women’s alleged unique danger to other women inmates.

1. There have been a number of high profile cases of trans women dying by suicide while in prison.

These include the deaths of Vicky Thompson, Joanne Latham, Jenny Swift and Jade Eatough.

1. In March 2019, the MoJ opened a segregated section for trans women prisoners in HMP Downview, a women’s prison.

Women’s Conference Further Believes

1. Prisons will never deliver justice for women who are imprisoned or women who are victims of crime.

Too few women see perpetrators of crime against them ever imprisoned, and prison does not help those who have been incarcerated enact justice with is restorative.

1. The ruling class determine what warrants incarceration; prisons do not work in our interests.
2. Prison is about punishment, not reformation or justice."