NUS women's campaign to lobby Mumsnet

[GrimDamnFanjo]

To stop facilitating transphobia apparently.
According to the Labour Students women's officer .

Does lobbying involve listening and engaging with conversations or does it just mean trying to tell people what to think?

I can't wait to find out.

There are also numbers of young men and women who commit suicide on jail.

There was a horrible case in Scotland recently where a 20 year old woman drunkenly hit a 15 year old (we was severely injured) and she ran away. She was jailed even through the boy she hit and his family said that they didn’t want that. She was strip searched and bullied until she hung herself.

(Hit with her car - not punched)

These are NUS officers...paid.

Forget prisons. That is someone else's job. Students have issues that need to be raised. High suicide rates on some campuses. High University fees. Shockingly high Hall fees. Date rape. And and and. Even campus LGBT+ issues.

What is this bunch of self serving cronies, a decade older than the people they represent, and lobbying for the continuation of thier salaries in a near bankrupt organisation, doing. They are not a political party with a wider remit. They have people who pay them and who they should be supporting.

Lord prof I don't see what the wishes of the boy or his family have to do with her sentence, tbh. She drove while drunk and severely injured someone. She should be in jail, it isn't only about the current victim.

Who knows why she killed herself? I knocked down someone I couldn't avoid, who darted out in front of me on a dark street. She wasn't severely injured, she had a bone broken in her hand, but I had flashbacks for years of the second before I hit her. I don't know how I'd have ever recovered if I'd been drunk, and she'd been severely injured.

The law has to apply to everyone equally.

They story itself is pretty horrible - she was bullied and attacked while in jail and they knew she was a suicide risk. The authorities didn’t take it seriously. Even criminals have the right to live in safety without fear of violence.

I have seen other cases where the wishes of the victim were listened to. Yes punish crimes - but didn’t you see the paedophile (again in Scotland) who was let off (although it was acknowledged that he has abused a little girl) with absolutely no ‘blemish’ on his record (ie not out on sex offenders register) because it would hurt his budding career? How does any of this make sense?

Wow, Needmoresleep, brilliant post. Going right to the heart of the matter. It seems to be all about using students to support THEIR concerns, rather than t'other way round. I hadn't thought of that til you pointed it out, but once seen it's seen.

Or can transwomen take LGBT roles ringfenced for women and be attracted to men? Ie T but not LGB. But in which case you would not have anyone representing the L.

I would assume any womans position could go to any transwoman. Because its explained as basically, women cannot represent transwomen as they are not transwomen, however transwomen CAN represent women because.. So any position thats for a wo man, should really be taken by transwomen else its not representative.

Thank outanabout. I understand that by Christmas, second year English students at Bristol had lost three of their coursemates to suicide. (And many apologies if that figure is wrong. Whatever the number it was too high.)

The argument is not whether individuals should be concerned about three transwoman dying in prison, but why they are not expressing the same concern about students. That is their job. Even if these students are 'cis', 'het' or even middle class.

Academics will confirm that there are major problems within the University sector and on many campus'. They need a strong Union voice, as do students. The NUS seems to be rearranging the furniture whilst the ship sinks.