Lewis Moonie has resigned from the Labour party [shock]

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

"I’ve resigned from the Labour Party today. I was accused of transphobia by the usual suspects, and told I must attend a disciplinary hearing. My membership suspended too. Not really up to fighting it so I’ve saved them the trouble.
I feel free to carry on campaigning for women."

I had wondered if Lord Moonie had been put under pressure to cancel the meeting. Looks like the timing of the resurrected tweets/Facebook posts was not a coincidence.

Refusing to listen to medical professionals who are whistle blowing duty of care failings in the way children are being treated in NHS is not a good look.

Attempting to prevent a Parliamentarian who is also a medical professional from hosting a panel with medical professionals whistle blowing Duty of Care failings concerning vulnerable children is very serious.

It's worth reading Harry the Owl's tweets from the meeting that got Moonie into trouble. It was a very important event, and I find it absolutely chilling that Labour leadership tried to prevent it from happening.

It baffles me that people can still look at Labour as a credible party sometimes.

It's not just this deluge of overt woman hating, child-abuse tolerating grimness (and the PIE business too), it's the whole shitshow of antisemitism that they seem incapable of denying properly, their inability to decide a position on Brexit, their general lack of realism on policies for the UK etc. And they don't even represent working people much either. It's all very Animal Farm with them.

I mean, I'm not saying other parties are better, but to actively know all that about Labour and still deliberately proclaim they are a good, positive choice? Inexplicable.

Why do we have Lords.

According to the Parliament website

“Members use their extensive individual experience to investigate public policy.”

Not like Moonie then, who used his medical background to invite senior medical experts to discuss an area of active public policy?

The thing is, I don't think the leadership of the Labour Party is anti-semitic. Their problem is that a large number of their newer members have beliefs that shade into anti-semitism, or worse, and to make an unequivocal stand against anti-semitism will cause a great row in the party and lose members.

It's not an excuse though, the moral cowardice of this is disgraceful.

A similar dynamic exists in the Tory Party over Brexit. May should have sought out supporters from the moderates from her plans but she decided she couldn't go there because it could cause civil war in that party.

It's stuff like this that is increasing support for populist politicians.

Exactly.
Membership numbers more important than morals.
But all the parties are the same.

Lils Madigan was ranting about this article on Twitter. Their friends think it is poor journalism, but actually I think it is quite good, despite the unpromising title of the magazine.

www.conservativewoman.co.uk/a-labour-lords-bold-stand-against-trans-madness/

Ha. That pulls no punches.

That is a good article. Can see why Madigan isn't a fan!

I can't believe I just enjoyed an article in Conservative Woman.

As a massive Labour and Corbin supporter, I am very sad and dissapointed by all this.
For the first time I am begining to think Corbin is wrong on this. His excuse for not coming out against Brexit (a mistake in my view, not because I am nessasarilly against Brexit but becasue Labour need to provide an alternative to the disaster that is Tory Brexit) is that he needs to appease traditional working class public oppinion.
So how does that square with getting on board 110% with the TRA agenda? An agenda that has no support among the majority of the population.

And, this might make me unpopular here but imo objecting to the current Isrealie states sadistic racism is not being anti-simetic, just like focusing on womans rights and protections does not make someone transphobic.

So how does that square with getting on board 110% with the TRA agenda? An agenda that has no support among the majority of the population.

I agree, its bizarrely illogical. Maybe he and other Labour top brass think people won't be bothered enough to switch votes over the trans issue, and also who would they switch them to? They might abstain though.

Given in the fptp system small numbers of key votes can be crucial, and corespondingly abstentions can be a VERY BIG DEAL (see last result of US election if in any doubt).
Labour leadership need to realise that tha majority of people are NOT OK with women being thrown under the bus and act accordingly, if they really want to be the next government.

I think Labour tactics had been to rely on the Tories to lose the next election, just offering the odd popular initiative: no University fees; £10 minimum wage for teenagers. This would leave Momentum policies unchallenged and intact. That may not be working as current polls are suggesting that both the LibDems and Greens are ahead.

The Tories are in a mess. Labours problems may be more intractable. There is a huge gulf between traditional members like Lord Moonie and young activists like Lily Madigan (I am pretty sure Lily is Momentum) and seemingly no place for both. And easy to guess who voters might prefer.

Has anyone got an address for Moonie, as I was going to send him a card, all I can find is an email. Thanks!

It's under Contact Details:

www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-moonie/621

It's so brief you could miss it.

Thanks Nauticant, silly me, yes I did look there and did miss it!

I agree, its bizarrely illogical.

I think Labour's problem is that its activists (needed in any election campaign) are Woke but the majority of its voters (in the target seats it needs to win an election) are UnWoke.

The circle cannot be squared.

Did you read John Harris in the Graun today, Lang and needmoresleep? ‘Britain is horribly divided – and that’s also the fault of remainers’

There are now Labour activists and polemicists who treat politics as if it were a board game, hanging on to the theories of dead Russians, and dealing in abstractions. Their rationale for maligning much of the party’s supposed base, I am told by some horrified Labour insiders, is to excise a whole chunk of the post-industrial working class from left politics, leave it to Farage and his friends, and install “networked youth” as the new vanguard of the revolution. Where any such manoeuvre would leave Labour’s supposed mission to double down on inequality and the UK’s regional imbalances is anyone’s guess. It would also threaten to pump the left full of one of the worst prejudices of all: snobbery.

It would also threaten to pump the left full of one of the worst prejudices of all: snobbery.

I think that ship has long since sailed!

"Networked youth" makes me think of a souped-up, fit for the 21st century internet age version of Mao's red guards.

But I honestly despair of the Labour party. I see their candidate for Petersborough (the one to replace the previous Labour MP, the first MP - as far as I remember - to be the subject of a recall petition, having been imprisoned for perjury then had the incredible front to return to Parliament after her prison sentence) has already embroiled herself in yet another Labour anti-semitism scandal.

Ha, yes sadly I think that’s correct. I could just about live with it if they’d kept a hold of the socialisism though, on the basis that the snobbery is a consequence of inequality rather than a main driver.

Socialism ^