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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Paying for swimming lessons in a block/ periods

498 replies

Aquifolium · 07/05/2019 22:25

Hi,

My daughter’s have attended swimming lessons at the local pool for many years. Their attendance has always been spot on. Now they have started their periods they are missing one or 2 sessions a month.
I have contacted the manager to ask if there has been any thought out into this phenomenon, and the reply is of course, they can use tampons, which are perfectly safe.

I wasn’t addressing this issue in a ‘what are you going to do about it’ kind of way, but the dismissive response I have had from the manager has pissed me off.
I feel that my daughters are at a disadvantage now, and that I am paying out for lessons (block booking only)they can’t take up.
Has anyone else done anything about this issue before? Got anywhere?
TIA

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Cagliostro · 08/05/2019 17:10

I'm not sure if it's a coincidence but I lost my virginity at 18 and it wasn't long after that that I was able to start using them without any problems.

Yep same here, I tried using them not long after I first started menstruating but it was an agonisingly painful mess. I was so disheartened as my best friend used them with no issues. But I really couldn’t until I was sexually active.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 08/05/2019 17:25

cagliostro

So what you and queen are saying is that dd may be aboe to use tampons once she loses her virginity

Right...well any hopes that child may have of me not finding out she is having sex is blown completely out of the water Grin

Cagliostro · 08/05/2019 17:31

Ha! Yes, perhaps Blush

I wonder if my mum twigged actually Hmm:o

QueenOfTheTofuTree · 08/05/2019 18:35

Possibly. Or she may not be able to use them regardless. Some women simply can't.

I'm always amazed that there are so many people who just can't seem to grasp that we're all so different and what works for one won't necessarily work for another.

BramblyHedge · 08/05/2019 18:38

I’d not thought about it like this before. I miss one Pilate’s class a month for this reason (since an embarrassing leak incident) and have just accepted that I take the hit.

englishdictionary · 08/05/2019 19:02

To have girls sport participation hinge on their willingness to stuff something up their cunt iudicrous.

You are disgusting.

WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 08/05/2019 19:20

But you decided to draw more attention to this comment (which personally I’d missed), so disgusted were you?

Language might be crude but that’s basically what a lot of people are saying.

MenuPlant · 08/05/2019 19:22

Why is that disgusting?

It's what multiple posters have said. Using different words maybe, but that is the meaning.

Pretending that's not what people are saying with the stance that girls however young must use tampons (or mooncups!) or accept that they can't do xyz, that it's a simple choice, are exactly saying that.

My DDs started their periods aged 9 and 10. Before they started year 6 primary school.

I didn't tell them they had to use tampons aka stick things up their cunts, or I'd cancel their activities. I didn't shut them in the bathroom with vaseline and tell them to get on with it.

Getting to grips with periods is hard. Harder for some girls than others. This get on with it or you have opted out and it's your own fault stuff is utterly horrible.

It's not me whose disgusting. It's the ones saying girls these days are too precious about what they have in their vaginas. And if they wanted to join in, they'd just get the fuck over it.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 08/05/2019 19:25

It’s exactly what people are saying.

englishdictionary · 08/05/2019 19:27

But you decided to draw more attention to this comment (which personally I’d missed), so disgusted were you?

Don't understand why my commenting about it makes me worse than the person who said it? But yes, I am disgusted.

LassOfFyvie · 08/05/2019 19:29

MenuPlant
And girls who are given tampons and do not get on with them should give up ballet and swimming, presumably along with other activities

Most girls do not take to them straight away, some never do

To have girls sport participation hinge on their willingness to stuff something up their cunt iudicrous

So you keep saying but you offer no solutions. Periods happen- they have to be dealt with. It's not a huge patriarchal conspiracy.

englishdictionary · 08/05/2019 19:30

Why is that disgusting?

You don't know?

Let me leave you right there. If you can't see how vile your language is then there is no explanation in the world that will help you.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 08/05/2019 19:31

So you keep saying but you offer no solutions.

You can raise problems for discussion and not hold a responsibility to offer solutions. Solutions have been discussed on this thread.

MenuPlant · 08/05/2019 19:33

Interesting.

The idea that the word cunt is unspeakable is rather misogynistic in itself.

Maybe telling little girls here a stone tampons go and stuff one up your foofoo daisy or you can't carry on with swimming club is completely different :/

LassOfFyvie · 08/05/2019 19:33

It's not me whose disgusting. It's the ones saying girls these days are too precious about what they have in their vaginas. And if they wanted to join in, they'd just get the fuck over it

You have been asked several times -if a girl won't or can't use internal protection- what is your solution? You haven't answered that question but have just gone off on a rant.

Are you suggesting they should just bleed into the swimming pool?

MenuPlant · 08/05/2019 19:35

First the question is, is it aproblem.

That is far from being settled.

Lots of people say no, that's its fine for female sports participation in some areas to rest on their willingness to stuff something up their unicornglitterpixieyahoo.

LassOfFyvie · 08/05/2019 19:36

You can raise problems for discussion and not hold a responsibility to offer solutions. Solutions have been discussed on this thread

As far as I can see all solutions have been vehemently dismissed by PlantMenu

cottonwoolmouth · 08/05/2019 19:37

Yeah ^menu* turn it in. No need for those vulgar descriptions - especially when talking about your preteen daughters.

LassOfFyvie · 08/05/2019 19:38

MenuPlant what is your position then? You aren't making much sense.

If a girl can't or won't use internal protection she should just be allowed to bleed into the pool?

MenuPlant · 08/05/2019 19:40

I think rape is a problrm
Climate change
Mental health in teens
Knife crime
Lots of things

The strance seems to be that of an individual doesn't know the answer to a problem but still wants to talk about it, they shouldn't. They have no right to say 'this is a problem' unless they have the solution.

It's intetesting this comes up a lot on fwr things.

If women can't solve all the world's problems, they should not raise them.

Hmmmmmm.

LangCleg · 08/05/2019 19:40

Are you suggesting they should just bleed into the swimming pool?

You don't bleed into the swimming pool. You just have a dodgy few moments between leaving the pool and arriving in the changing rooms.

I offered a possible solution: swimming courses for tweens approaching puberty should run longer with pre-bookable individual sessions so that girls new to periods can miss one in four sessions but still take part.

As PPs have said, sports participation drops off a cliff for girls at menarche and this is a public health issue, what with obesity, fitness and all the rest of it. At the very least, public pools should have a duty to factor this in.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 08/05/2019 19:43

You aren't making much sense.

Menu is making sense to me. It’s the same problem we’ve been talking about all thread.

Fancy telling a woman she can’t discuss a problem unless she has a solution.

englishdictionary · 08/05/2019 19:45

The idea that the word cunt is unspeakable is rather misogynistic in itself

Is it?

Maybe telling little girls here a stone tampons go and stuff one up your foofoo daisy or you can't carry on with swimming club is completely different :/

It’s nothing to do with whether girls use tampons or not. It’s your language. You are talking about kids ffs. No need for it. Regardless of how you try to dress it up, you are using vile language. It’s not needed. You want to discuss where tampons go? Vagina works just fine.

LassOfFyvie · 08/05/2019 19:50

The strance seems to be that of an individual doesn't know the answer to a problem but still wants to talk about it, they shouldn't. They have no right to say 'this is a problem' unless they have the solution

What utter nonsense. The problem is a problem caused by female biology. It has no external factors. All the other things you mention could in theory be solved by altering behaviour.

Periods can be stopped by altering behaviour but you've gone off on a rant about how that isn't acceptable (and it isn't for young girls)

Periods can be dealt with in a manner which doesn't prevent participation in sport but that wasn't acceptable to you either, which led to more ranting.

You don't seem to want to discuss anything. I don't know what point you are trying to make.

MenuPlant · 08/05/2019 19:54

'Periods can be stopped by altering behaviour'

Hormonal contraception
Or
One that plenty of girls take and is common for girls who are very very into sports - keeping weight v low

I don't see either of these as desirable
Hormonal contraception has a host of possible side effects and the jury is very much out on whether it causes significant risk of mental health issues in younger women and girls.

Yes these are 'solutions' but, not great ones.