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Straight men learning to "cope" with transwomen's bodies

92 replies

Lamaha · 27/04/2019 07:20

Yes, finally! They are going after the men. Some weekend entertainment:
www.theblaze.com/news/2017/07/03/transgender-activist-straight-men-should-work-through-non-attraction-to-transgender-women?utm_content=buffer949cf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR1b0p17JfvbGJxs9SjY_Q05KqUapC5Q_Nofm_f3WUj86vslsAHYAASnknY

Watch now as men begin to see that transideology affects them, too, and start to trans peak en masse.

The blindness and entitlement is beyond belief. Apparently there are incredible numbers of straight men who want us but refuse to ever admit to it, and cover it with transphobia

Here's the twitter thread, for a good laugh: twitter.com/ZJemptv/status/881284028548173824

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SuperLoudPoppingAction · 27/04/2019 07:26

Honestly it seems like straight men are more likely to consider this than lesbians.
Lesbians aiming to appear right-on pretend they would consider a male partner who presents as feminine. But they never actually go out with one.
Straight men pretend to be revolted but often give it a go. Certainly from among the folk I know.
They've often seen porn that fetishises it.

But I do hope men object loudly. And also hope that us lesbians arent the only ones getting flack for having boundaries.
Lesbian day of visibility was hard this year

IWouldPreferNotTo · 27/04/2019 07:28

Watch now as men begin to see that transideology affects them, too,

Well, it doesn't really. A few people with zero influence will make statements which will largely go unheard.

Realistically if a huge number of women worked hard for years to reduce inequality and still have a way to go, a couple of people demanding a shag is going to have no impact

madcatladyforever · 27/04/2019 07:29

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 27/04/2019 07:32

it's so often about sex isn't it?

while the sight of anyone trying to pressure others into sex is pretty repulsive, I will admit to a certain amount of schadenfreude at seeing a trans activist go after straight men, the top of the gender hierarchy.

Let's see how that works out for you. Hassling lesbians was a much safer bet

CuriousaboutSamphire · 27/04/2019 07:33

Oh! That has made me sniggle a bit too loudly. I woke the dog Smile

acomingin · 27/04/2019 07:35
LazyYogi · 27/04/2019 07:38

These are articles from 2017, not sure it's had the desired impact...

nellodee · 27/04/2019 07:40

"I like my women like I like my coffee - without a penis."

aprarl · 27/04/2019 07:42

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feelingverylazytoday · 27/04/2019 07:42

This is never going to happen.

drspouse · 27/04/2019 07:45

Of course. LM "just prefers" their lesbians to not have a penis too. Can't they just internally combust or something?

Teddybear45 · 27/04/2019 07:47

In India, for example, in some areas a straight man’s first sexual experience might equally be with a trans woman or a female prostitute. Occasionally you might see men run off to marry feminine looking women (they are a third gender in India and marriages are legal). But I have never seen any straight man take a masculine trans woman seriously, and I have never seen trans marriages accepted by Indian families.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, trans men are far more acceptable to Indian society but do not have the legal rights or support structures of trans women.

travellinglighter · 27/04/2019 07:49

Right, I’ll get straight to work on that because what you find attractive is very easy to change.

By the way the phrase “Trucker dressed as prostitute.” I’m keeping that.

HJWT · 27/04/2019 07:55

Anybody read the article about the man in Russia? Took a 'woman' home having sex with her realised she was transgender killed her and cut her up 🤢

I think it should be made law you have to tell any sexual partners you are transgender!!

nauticant · 27/04/2019 08:13

Before I saw the comment:

These are articles from 2017, not sure it's had the desired impact...

I was going to write that this will have little effect because men will just ignore the transwomen demanding their right to sex with men. Apart from possible extreme examples, it will not go beyond being a nuisance. Women don't have the luxury to be similarly unbothered.

The comparator is a female prisoner finding herself stuck in a prison with transwoman rapist versus a male prisoner finding himself stuck in a prison with transman. Who needs to be bothered more?

Genderfreelass · 27/04/2019 08:14

This Twitter quote "Same way you shouldn't have stayed a man, I shouldn't have to work through that."

Rather than them working through their issues everyone else is supposed to work through them - the arrogance I'd astounding.

It is great now they are targeting men with the cotton ceiling BS though and be interesting to see twitters response and if they start banning men 😂😂

Lamaha · 27/04/2019 08:16

I realised too late that it was fro 2017. But it was posted on Posie Parker's Facebook today and shared a few times. Maybe it's a late developer, like some of us! A lot has changed since 2017. They actually mean this.

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Fazackerley · 27/04/2019 08:25

That Twitter thread is illuminating. Hundreds of comments from men saying wtf dude and no replies. One woman saying straight men prefer real actual women and she's jumped on for being 'mean'

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 27/04/2019 08:47

I think it should be made law you have to tell any sexual partners you are transgender

It is the law (sex by deception). Unsurprisingly Stonewall are campaigning against it.

Ereshkigal · 27/04/2019 08:54

That Twitter thread is illuminating. Hundreds of comments from men saying wtf dude and no replies. One woman saying straight men prefer real actual women and she's jumped on for being 'mean'

IIRC there were lots of men saying things like "yeah, and lesbians should have to sleep with men too in that case". Well done, that's what these people have been saying for ages!

AncientLights · 27/04/2019 09:06

Zinnia Jones' comment about 'dealing with it' is very reminiscent of dear Rachel McKinnon's 'coping just fine'. So nice that these two have such a low bar for sexual partners' enjoyment.

fidgetspinner555 · 27/04/2019 09:17

If you look at Zinnia Jones twitter feed you'll see lots of porn selfies.

Popchyk · 27/04/2019 09:41

It is an interesting thing, isn't it?

Some straight men writing about this issue (Andrew Gilligan, James Kirkup etc) get accused of sexual fantasies about transwomen. Which rather tells you everything you need to know about who is doing the accusing.

Andrew Gilligan got flak for writing about Karen Jones last year. A few of the comments on Twitter were of the "Clearly, you are fantasising about transwomen in prison, you really want to see them naked, don't you?", that kind of thing.

And Edward Lord accused Gilligan of having a fetish about transgenderism.

And some males who identify as women and are attracted to males, seem utterly convinced that the reason that they don't get straight men interested in them is because of the social taboo (which can be overcome in time). And not that straight men don't want biological males as sexual partners. The transwomen cannot set demands, because they are lower down the gender hierarchy than straight men.

But women who write about transgenderism (whatever their sexual orientation) never get accused about fantasising about transgender people. Quite the reverse, they are told (particularly lesbians) that they should be fantasising about transgender people, but only the male ones of course.

Straight women are not routinely being told that they need to include men with vaginas as sexual partners. Because these men with vaginas are female, lower down the gender hierarchy, and don't get to set sexual demands. Or any other demands for that matter.

Demonstrates the power hierarchy, doesn't it?

Everywhere you look, it is about men setting sexual demands.

Lamaha · 27/04/2019 09:57

GC Women also get told all the time that we are obsessed with genitals. But it seems to me that it is the TRA who are genital obsessed. Whether it's those who believe in the transitioning of children (it's just weird to be even thinking of kids' genitals!) or those going on about their ladydicks and how people need to accept them and cope with them.

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Popchyk · 27/04/2019 10:03

The whole "it's just genitals" thing.

If it is just genitals, then men can stay in the men's facilities. It is just genitals after all.

Problem solved.