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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What is wrong with females having single sex spaces to attend to needs which come of their female status?

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 07/04/2019 10:33

I am genuinely confused by this:

What argument supports MTF being in spaces where miscarriages, uteruses, breasts, our whatever are attended to? Why would anyone who does not have the biology WANT to be in there?

Is it really just for validation?

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 10/04/2019 19:58

So, here's a question - all the legislative changes and societal changes have taken place with government consultation...
...why were no women involved?

Women's Aid were - but they are centrally funded? All the female voices heard have to rely on government funding, and that means being inclusive? And that means ignoring the EA?

No GC opinion or "no" was heard? Really?

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Soverytiredofeverythinggoingon · 10/04/2019 23:19

I live very rural, so a lot of this isnt really a huge problem, yet. But I've still come across a few MTF trans in women's only spaces, and it made me feel really worried and uncomfortable. I do know GRC MTF and FTM trans people and have no issues at all with them or trans in general.
I also have contact with WA and I'm now really feeling v concerned that my safe space to discuss past male abuse of me might be shared by a male born person.

its all so very difficult :(

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 11/04/2019 01:43

This is an excellent point DuchessDumbarton

“Women have always been that convenient out-group for men....regardless of how weak an individual male might be, at least he could satisfy himself that he wasn't a (ugh!) woman. He always sat higher in the hierarchy above all women.”

I this is why men care so little about the violation of women’s boundaries by transwomen. Most men see women as do inferior, such an underclass, that they can’t imagine a “real man”, wanting to be a woman. So when some men declare themselves women, other men willingly allow them to assign themselves woman, because the inferior group known as woman, is irrelevant and unimportant, with no boundaries that matter.

And because if you don’t want to be a “man”, you must be a “woman”, because women don’t represent a class of their own. They are not women-as-a-biological-class, but “not-men”, since the biological class known as men are clearly the default humans. 🙄

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 11/04/2019 09:23

God, you're right.

My elected representatives see me as being of less value than the males with ishoos.

I read the handmaid's tale when I was a bout 15. That woman is a seer.

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