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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The NSPCC aren't right about this are they?

326 replies

Macareaux · 04/04/2019 17:51

Oh wise and knowledgeable women of Mumsnet I don't think the EA2010 does this at all does it? I'm not 100% certain so don't want to wade in.

The NSPCC aren't right about this are they?
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JackyHolyoake · 05/04/2019 11:36

That NSPCC tweet about separate facilities is a bit misleading.

Any communal toilet and washing facilities must be sex segregated for children aged 8 years +. Providing mixed sex communal facilities contravenes the law.

Individual facilities can be provided and must be isolated , self-contained rooms containing the toilet and washing facilities. This type of facility is frequently what is provided for users with disabilities.

MiddleAgeRage · 05/04/2019 11:50

Loos are covered by implication.

Thank you that's what I was driving at but couldn't put quite as succinctly.

Thanks also to the other poster for the link to the video about public toilet provision. That's extremely informative.

nauticant · 05/04/2019 12:04

NSPCC are now getting fawning responses from TRAs and are not shy about responding to those in glowing terms. It's like watching grooming happen in real time.

LangCleg · 05/04/2019 12:15

Added my comment to the regulatory capture thread. I know that a while back there was a thread where people started to capture the links between those well paid individuals on the gravy train influencing the removal of sex based rights. Did the NSPCC and the DfE feature in this do you recall?

Thanks, darling!

I remember a thread like that and was looking for it but can't find it. If I do, I'll resurrect it.

RepealTheGRA · 05/04/2019 12:16

NSPCC are now getting fawning responses from TRAs and are not shy about responding to those in glowing terms. It's like watching grooming happen in real time

Because that’s going to play well with the general public, creeps thanking them for dismantling sex segregation Hmm

nauticant · 05/04/2019 12:26

NSPCC are happily responding to stuff like this:

twitter.com/NSPCC/status/1114116437638045696

whomovedmyprosecco · 05/04/2019 12:29

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Melroses · 05/04/2019 12:30

I had to look at that in a private window because I am blocked. Is James Billingham @ oolong the Kilgore Sprout, transactivist who plays tennis?

nauticant · 05/04/2019 12:42

I don't know. But you don't have to be adept at twitter to be able to click on a few links and find a network of people, including many we know of, discussing the targeting of Caroline Farrow in approving terms.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 05/04/2019 12:55

interesting whomoved, not surprising though.

At best, it seems these people are just general managerment types who are just running businesses, any businesses, and have no particular interest in the purpose of the charity or organisation they run.

At worst, they have an agenda, and it appears a rather sinister one.

I am starting to think it's the latter.

Melroses · 05/04/2019 12:59

Sorry, his handle is oolon - the other is 'tea' Blush

hipsterfun · 05/04/2019 13:01

They could see misogyny when it was dressed up as a superhero.

The current costume would seem to be a cloak of invisibility.

Datun · 05/04/2019 13:02

He doxxed Harry the Owl's son. Shocking to see the NSPCC so pally with him.

The NSPCC are not mistaken, they're not woke, they've been groomed and are now complicit with their groomers.

Melroses · 05/04/2019 13:06

It is rather disgusting to see.

R0wantrees · 05/04/2019 13:07

Safeguarding questions were put together for a scheduled MN live discussion with NSPCC last year.
NSPCC cancelled & did not respond.
(there was talk of a statement from the charity but I believe nothing has emerged)

A MN member has been highlighting Safeguarding concerns with the charity for some time.
OP wrote Thu 30-Aug-18 :
"My letter to NSPCC
Dear NSPCC Trustees and Board Members,

I have been writing to you for the last couple of years regarding the safeguarding implications of gender self identity and the abandoning of sex-class as a basis for safeguarding.

After a number of ridiculous replies from various staff members, I received a reply from Peter Wanless on behalf of you all. This can be read, below. The NSPCC chose to ignore any safeguarding risks posed by Trans Identified Males (TIMs), deeming that existing safeguarding policies and risk assessments are adequate.

There have been some recent developments which means that you must review the NSPCC position on this. (continues with reference to JEss Bradley, Aimee & David Challenor)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3350778-My-letter-to-NSPCC

This isn't about a rogue NSPCC social media employee.

See August 2018 threads:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_facebook_live/a3343961-Facebook-Live-about-talking-to-kids-about-staying-safe-from-abuse-with-NSPCC

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3353658-AIBU-to-be-shocked-that-the-NSPCC-cancelled-their-Facebook-Live-session-with-Mumsnetters-because-they-didnt-like-the-questions-That-they-cant-explain-why-they-arent-putting-children-in-danger

R0wantrees · 05/04/2019 13:11

from twitter link above

The NSPCC aren't right about this are they?
Datun · 05/04/2019 13:13

The NSPCC. The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, cannot come up with unequivocal guidance where a girl doesn't have to disrobe in front of a man, if that man says some magic words.

A safeguarding children's charity is actively promoting avenues to access children.

Meanwhile Stonewall actively promotes avenues for men to access lesbians.

It's fucking disgusting.

littlbrowndog · 05/04/2019 13:20

Yeah it’s encouraging kids to lie and not believe what they see

How are kids to know who is a risk if they are told that there are special people that safe guarding doesn’t apply to

How can they identify the special people if anyone can be that special person according to stonewall

So lying to kids is now fine according to nspcc

Having no boundaries is now fine according to nspcc

Melroses · 05/04/2019 13:23

jamesbillingham677652410.wordpress.com/ This was on kiwifarms.

nauticant · 05/04/2019 13:24

Just watch the TRA tweets trickle in, many containing slurs, with each one getting grovelling thanks from NSPCC:

twitter.com/NSPCC/with_replies

Then compare to yesterday where hundreds of posts correcting misrepresentation of safeguarding law got this:

twitter.com/forwardnotback/status/1113924333200654336

(I think the original was deleted once NSPCC thought better.)

Datun · 05/04/2019 13:26

So lying to kids is now fine according to nspcc

Having no boundaries is now fine according to nspcc

This is fine according to the NSPCC.

The NSPCC aren't right about this are they?
littlbrowndog · 05/04/2019 13:28

Omg 😮

littlbrowndog · 05/04/2019 13:30

Yeah we seen the tweets from that person in the picture who likes to help 10 year old girls with tampons

Datun · 05/04/2019 13:34

Yeah we seen the tweets from that person in the picture who likes to help 10 year old girls with tampons

Exactly. At the heart of all this is the refusal to accept the power dynamic between men and women.

98% of the time, a sex offender will be Male. Hence sex segregation.

How the fucking, bollocking hell the NSPCC, who have been active for 134 years, have concluded that is no longer the case, is the question.

RepealTheGRA · 05/04/2019 13:41

Thread detailing how long NSPCC have been wilfully ignoring the law and safeguarding.

mobile.twitter.com/NurtureMyBaby/status/1114132404422287360

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