Any insight? Attack on Coron Kraatz

[MsTiggywinkletoyou]

A report of a horrendous attack on a trans 15 year old (identifies as a girl) by a school bully (identified in the article as a girl). I've got no idea what's behind this story - whether Coron was attacked because of gender identity, or other reasons unspecified. The school seems to have provided Coron with a separate changing place; is this standard practice now? Those of you who work with tempestuous young people, how often have you heard of a girl stamping on someone's head?

If I'm reading the story correctly, here is someone not getting access to the girls' changing room, but assaulted anyway. There's probably a lot more behind the scenes that I'm not understanding.

Her mum Suzanne said: "This is the third time that my daughter has been attacked by vicious bullies. This time it took place as she was walking to a special changing room, where she was punched to the ground and kicked in the head so badly that she was left with a boot mark on her head. The girl also pulled clumps of hair out of her head so violently that Coron was left with cuts on her scalp and struggled washing her head for days because of how painful it was. A teacher even told us that if they did not intervene at the right time then it could have been too late, as the girl was stamping down on the temple of her head."
www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/trans-teenager-attacked-violently-school-2718414

Barracker

And just for the avoidance of doubt it was not me who reported any posts.

I was equally surprised to see deletions.

One of the points I’ve seen raised when I’ve been reading about this, is that most attackers in schools have a history of violence and/or mental health issues, and often disrupted home life. A major issue is that CAMHS is completely overloaded and is not fit for purpose. Schools do not get given the help and resources they need and are simply not equipped to deal with this problem alone.

A serious one off offence is grounds for permanent exclusion.

Unfortunately, it isn’t always the case it happens though. Parents just last year made complaints after their daughters had to continue to go to school with boys that had raped or sexually assaulted them.

^Existing research points to different catalysts – such as parental violence, substance use and neglect – in the first 24 months of children’s lives as contributing to their own later violent conduct. The research shows that the peak age for violent behaviour is age six – which has implications for violence prevention and intervention policies^

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/how-school-expulsions-could-be-fuelling-the-rise-in-youth-violence-93613

I didn't say it always does.

I was answering the assertion that as the attacker had been permanently excluded it can't have been a first offence. I was explaining that isn't correct - you can be permanently excluded for a first offence if it is serious enough.

Barracker is MN on the !?

Although I did post a [tin foil] theory on last nights spam that might answer today's vexatious reporting..

Anyway back to Mouse (and the not purpose of this thread maybe - who knows I’ve lost the plot)...

Mouse unless I have not been clear... I have no idea at what you’re driving at. Your point has meandered so far as to be in another book, never mind the same page. BUT please DO NOT answer my question with the exact same question back.
The roundabouts make me sick now - age huh.

I asked you first What are your suggestions?

About what?

How can we give suggestions about this case because we have to presume too much.

If this happened then this is the answer

On the other hand if that happened then they should have done that.

On the face of it it appears the school acted appropriately.

I don't know what could have prevented this unless they knew that the attacker was likely to do this.

I don't know what could have prevented this unless they knew that the attacker was likely to do this.

It is impossible to know unless we know the detail of what actually happened and how the attacker was allowed to continue bullying.

All schools have a bullying policy, what did they do to prevent this happening in the first place?

This won’t have come from nowhere. I really think the conversation might be better if we discussed preventing all acts of violence like this, since focusing on an isolated incident that we don’t have all the details on isn’t that helpful. The link I added above has some worthwhile points. Schools can’t solve this on their own. Preventing young children from going on to commit such acts, seems the best possible way of addressing this. The rate of violence happening now is really huge and it isn’t manageable for most schools on their own.

Oh wow Mouse finally you agree with everyone else You said...

On the face of it it appears the school acted appropriately. I don't know what could have prevented this unless they knew that the attacker was likely to do this

And we all agree! (Unless you believe in thought crime )

So we know it's passed and past. We know who. And when. And how.... just the elusive why

www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=girl+viciously+attacked+by+other+girls

Quick google search reveals that head stamping is a thing :(

@MNHQ

Yeah, that was a bit weird.

Are there talk guidelines on fictitious works of writing by imaginary people?

And I'd love to see the guidelines about emojis!

My DD goes to the school.
When the incident happened, all of the girls were walking through an empty changing room, to get upstairs to the girls’ changing room and Coron’s personal room.
Nobody was getting changed.

PeachNut

Thank you for clarifying that.

This is exactly why Oasis Academy Wintringham is failing as a school. I'm actually urging you from personal experience to never send your kid here. You'd think they'd have learnt by now but no, they refuse to actually acknowledge anything they've allowed to happen. Michael Harrison, a science teacher was prosecuted for grooming children after admitting it to a classroom of kids, instead of apologising and putting parents thoughts at ease they'd rather just have no comment. They're so hellbent on trying to look good in front of Ofsted they try to put on an act instead of actually tending to the kids and their needs. Not to mention how many times bullies have been ignored and not dealt with, their "bully buddy" system is a joke and it doesn't work, and they know it doesn't work, but they still put kids who have no clue in charge of that sort of thing. This place is a prison and it's treated as such, nothing good ever happens to you unless you're hurt first, that's how it works.

DO NOT SEND YOUR KIDS HERE.

I am Corons mother. Coron was bullied for many years. Than one group of girls decided Coron should be physically and emotionally beaten. She was the hospitalised. 4 different girls had attacked her before this some recieving community sentences. The girl who stomped on her head, pulled her hair out, stood on her stomach was given probation and perminantly excluded. I blame the school and the parents. The school are ignorant and did nothing to help Coron. The parents were as ignorant as the child (police officer's opinion) the police recommended we move house. We did we moved to a city 1 hour away and Coron has thrived, she hasn't been bullied at all here and lives a peaceful life. She is completing her A Levels, has a job and will look for a teaching position soon. She is an example to all. Thanks all

To clear up a few things... Coron wasn't near anyone getting changed from PE. It was an access to her changing room. Where she alone changed

Coron was let down HUNDREDS of times by that school!!! They didn't even call an ambulance!!! Coron had a bruised brain!!!

The cctv was of the corridor outside the changing rooms

The police and school found no fault of this AT ALL to be Corons!!

She was viciously attacked from behind, knocked out and stomped on!!

The now 18 year old that did this had hit Coron and bullied Coron for over 6 months. We had been in over and over and school were negligent !!!

@JessicaWakefieldSVH ·"..I am as sorry for this young person as I am for all the other thousands of young people attacked at school. I am frustrated this gets more attention than all the others, including the sexual assaults that happen."

There have been high profile cases in Canada of teen aged girls viciously killing other teen aged girls. No one involved were trans. If any had been trans would that have made that death more horrific, more tragic than the others?

As you rightly point out in your other posts schools are violent places and that violence often isn't addressed.That only some of the crimes are noticed because a victim has some special status is appalling because it obfuscates how widespread the problem is.

Furthermore we do not yet know the motivation for this horrible attack or anything about the attacker. Its very possible something other than transphobia was the motivating factor. I recall a case where a transwoman was murdered and there was a hue and cry about it being another example of transphobia however that had to be pedalled back when her partner was charged for her murder.

@Suezkraatz
So very sorry Coron had to endure that brutality.Glad to hear things are going well. According to another poster this was an Oasis school. If so,that is surprising to hear as I have recently been reading about Oasis and how they market themselves as very inclusive. From what you're saying their marketing is just smoke and mirrors, that they the couldn't care less for LGBTQ students.

I'm so pleased to hear that she's thriving now.