Any insight? Attack on Coron Kraatz

[MsTiggywinkletoyou]

A report of a horrendous attack on a trans 15 year old (identifies as a girl) by a school bully (identified in the article as a girl). I've got no idea what's behind this story - whether Coron was attacked because of gender identity, or other reasons unspecified. The school seems to have provided Coron with a separate changing place; is this standard practice now? Those of you who work with tempestuous young people, how often have you heard of a girl stamping on someone's head?

If I'm reading the story correctly, here is someone not getting access to the girls' changing room, but assaulted anyway. There's probably a lot more behind the scenes that I'm not understanding.

Her mum Suzanne said: "This is the third time that my daughter has been attacked by vicious bullies. This time it took place as she was walking to a special changing room, where she was punched to the ground and kicked in the head so badly that she was left with a boot mark on her head. The girl also pulled clumps of hair out of her head so violently that Coron was left with cuts on her scalp and struggled washing her head for days because of how painful it was. A teacher even told us that if they did not intervene at the right time then it could have been too late, as the girl was stamping down on the temple of her head."
www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/trans-teenager-attacked-violently-school-2718414

I've seen TRAs blaming this on mumsnet. Because obviously all hard nut 15 year old girls spend all their time being radicalised here. Um. Not that I've ever seen anyone condone violence in any way. What happened to the trans kid was unacceptable. The girl that attacked them had been expelled.

It's interesting the police are involved. I think it is good, but I expect them to be involved in all the other assaults that happen on children by other children. It's never acceptable.

Grimsby too

It's pretty hard

This is an appalling assault. And yes, I do think that girls can be violent bullies.

I think the sharing changing rooms is not only not on from the girls’ point of view. A trans girl is likely, as this one, to be vulnerable. It could lead to bullying or ostracism for them too. (I know in this case, Caron did not use the girls room).

I don’t feel ‘insight’ is needed for this report. It’s hateful transphobic bullying and serious assault of a child. And should be totally condemned by all.

Apparently according to all the sages on Twitter this attack is all my fault and I am happy about it.

Anything that makes you stand out incenses bullies in my experience

This is the thing isn't it about those awkward, and often alienating, feelings of childhood and youth when our identities are forming. We already feel odd, different, irregular, exceptional - and in trying to find a solution to this we make ourselves stand out even more.

The youth groups of the past formed their identities around music and clothing; and then they grew up and their feelings mostly resolved, or if they didn't they still carried their feelings of uniqueness or specialness into their everyday lives, often in ways un-noticed by others. We all need to feel special and unique, and there is nothing wrong with that.

However now, young people are presented with the trans ideology - which like youth identities of the past may well resolve itself and they grow out of it when they are older; but which may also, unfortunately, escalate to the point that they enter upon chemical and medical 'transition' - and become fully absorbed in the whole trans world - which now embraces middle aged transvestites, and the whole 'queer' lifestyle.

I know in this case, Coron did not use the girls room

[Coron] was punched to the ground while walking through the school's changing rooms

Was it the boys changing rooms C was walking through? Not the girls?
If that's the case, was the girl attacker also in the boys room?

It's hard to understand how to safeguard to reduce risk of such incidents happening without knowing what circumstances contributed to this incident.

I do think it right that the police are involved.

I got deleted upthread for pointing out that we dont know the gender of the attacked . I have no idea why talking about gender is controversial.

I am gender free, i hope i am allowed to say this?

I also stated that i think it’s good to see sschools taking firm action on pupils who assault others .

Gender of the attacker.

I see that other schools suggest that girls who are sexually assaulted have mediation with their attacker to work out their issues. I’m glad the school mentioned in the OP has taken a better approach and excluded the attacker and not the victim.

More should be done to stop assaults in schools.

There's a lot of pressure on schools not to permanently exclude potentially dangerous and violent pupils. Politicians and others are very vocal about this. The idea is that the school should somehow be able to "work with" potential young offenders, despite mostly not being qualified to do so.

Other children are inevitably at risk due to this, and with the increase in trans-identified pupils, it was sadly inevitable that one would become a victim. For context, there are something like 200 (reported) rapes in schools per year in England, and many, many violent incidents.

Bullies have existed since people existed.

If it wasn't picking on the trans girl, they'd be picking on the girl with the wrong hair cut, the wrong shoes on, the wrong coat.
I got battered by bullies for having a supermarket backpack and not a fancy one.

What's happened is awful, it's a disgrace and I hope the girl is okay.

What needs to happen to bullies that assault peaopl at school is their parents are targeted, pulled in by the police and dealt with by social services. It's there that these kids get their attitudes. Sounds harsh, don't care, bigoted parents breed bigoted kids.

I'd certainly blame them before I blame a Catholic journalist that's likely never been near Grimsby.

Lots of people on twitter are blaming Mumsnet

I've never seen anyone on Mumsnet condone or encourage any violence towards trans people.

I don't deny that actual transphobia exists. But sticking up for women's rights, and maintaining separate spaces for women and girls, is not it.

I believe the school did the right thing in providing a separate changing area for this trans child - but failed massively if the child had to walk through the girl's changing room to get to it.

We have no data about that, but as the claim is actually that those children are safer in opposite-sex changing rooms,

Presumably only safer from an alleged self-harm point of view. I can’t imagine a transboy would be safer in the boys’ changing room.

And the report highlights horrible violence. Interesting that this one states something that was omitted earlier: that the attack took place in the girls’ changing room. Obviously such an attack is unjustified anywhere, but the school put Conon at risk if they situated a trans changing area in the changing room used by the opposite sex.

Women have been held responsible for the ills of the world since the world began. Blaming MN is to be expected.

after she was attacked by another student while walking to her changing room following a PE lesson because of her lifestyle.

The incident took place just over two weeks ago on March 19, as Coron was going to the special changing room that the school has provided for her.

This was taken from the article. It doesn't sound like she was walking through the girls' changing rooms. It sounds as though it was in a corridor on the way to her individual changing room.

If you RTFT you'll spot there's a second article, LittleChristmasMouse linked upthread and quoted.

Barracker

Yes I did read them both. But the second article says "as she walked through the changing rooms on the way to her changing room" which doesn't suggest to me that she was walking through the girls changing room.

I think the first article is correct, particularly as staff intervened and there is video footage. It all reads as though this happened in a corridor between changing rooms.

“as she walked through the changing rooms on the way to her changing room"

She was attacked by a girl. Do you think said girl was in the boys’ changing room?

She was attacked by a girl. Do you think said girl was in the boys’ changing room?

No. I think the 2nd article hasn't reported accurately. The plural "changing rooms" reads to me that she was in a corridor between the boys and girls changing rooms.

The first article sounds more accurate to me.

I’m not sure of the insight you’re looking for, this is an incredibly sad story and part of a wider problem in our schools. Violent incidents in schools in the UK are around the 30,000 mark each year, a shocking statistic. Sexual crimes are separate and many schools won’t disclose the numbers but again are in the thousands and girls as young as 4 are experiencing sexual assault. Teachers are also often victims of violence from pupils. It’s a huge problem. Anyone blaming a women’s forum for this incident is part of the problem, as they’re using a victims horrible attack as part of a personal agenda that will do nothing to reduce and eliminate our appalling and deeply worrying problem of violence in school, and indeed in our wider community. Women and girls suffer more abuse than any other group and this forum has always been clearly and strongly against violence against anyone. The same cannot be said for TRA’s.

I sincerely hope this child has the right support to heal from this awful attack. Nobody deserves to be bullied or attacked. Nobody.

Seeing that photo of the shoe print on her head I hope that the perpetrator is arrested. What a disgusting attack.

I’ve noticed that girls are becoming more and more vicious and violent and that much of it is directed towards each other. This sort of violent aggression is unacceptable, regardless whether the perpetrator is male or female, it’s just as bad and the punishment should be just as severe.

It doesn’t matter whether Coron was inside or outside of a changing room, or just passing through, what happened to her is horrific and I absolutely condemn it.

Given that this is the second violent attack on a young transgender person this week, I’m surprised that the national press hasn’t reported on it (particularly as they frequently feature trans stories)?

That’s a good question RedHoodGirl.

I wonder why the national press doesn’t report on all the sexual assaults and rapes that happen in our schools every day. It’s a mystery.

I wonder why the national press doesn’t report on all the sexual assaults and rapes that happen in our schools every day. It’s a mystery.

Isn’t it? Also, as I said, there are around 30,000 incidents of violence in schools each year. They couldn’t possibly write an article on each one.

Assault is not acceptable. Hope Coran continues to be okay.

Clearly not safe for trans girls to be in female changing rooms for their safety.