Transwoman murderer/torturer - sex change on NHS

[thebluearsefly]

I missed this.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/19/trans-murderer-serving-life-will-receive-80k-gender-reassignment/amp/

Does anyone know if this has gone ahead?

...meant to post this in feminist chat

Not sure but it's infuriating. We are rationing care everywhere else yet spending thousands on transitions

Meanwhile every few months my mum has to spend 7 days+ in hospital because her periods don't stop and her blood doesn't clot, she needs transfusions. Will they give her a hysterectomy though? Will they balls.

That fucking outrageous- I’m sorry for your mother

I’m just wondering if there is any means to protest this and who that would be directed to?

Blame the bankers who crashed the economy, blame austerity starving the NHS of cash, blame the billionaire's keeping their untaxed wealth in tax havens.

Trans people are not the reason the NHS is starved of cash. Do you really seek to remove human rights from prisoner's?

Prequelle that is insanity, your poor mum.

she should write to her local MP about that and tell the GP she is doing that.

sorry, as you were...

What @Treaclesweet said.

We should all be entitled to receive the healthcare that we need. We don't receive it because of cuts to NHS funding, not because of the needs of another patient. Look to the root cause of the problem, not a scapegoat (even if the scapegoat is an utter scumbag), as that deflects from the real issue.

@Prequelle Has your mum asked for the reasoning behind their refusal? If they claim it is cost related, point out that the cost of numerous non surgical stays will fast outweigh the cost of a single procedure that remedies the problem.

This isn’t a vital or life saving operation. I most certainly wish to remove the rights of unnecessarily spending 80k worth of NHS money on pandering to a murderer~torturer-sexual predator

Since being imprisoned (for anally raping a man with a rolling pin and beating him yo death) he has since sexually assaulted and sexually pursued women in the women’s prison he has been housed in.

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Fully functioning healthy bodies should not be given surgical priority over those who suffer from life altering conditions or require life saving surgery.

Whereas I dont always agree that someone's criminal status should render then less worthy ( I'm not God) of receiving medical care, an elective procedure that is purely cosmetic should be further down the list to someones who's ability to function normally is an impossibility.

^^ agree Gerry. Life saving treatment should be given indiscriminately...that’s a given.

I am not sure why an elective surgery for a trans individual does get priority over Prequelle's mum?

I of course would not want prisoners to lose their access to healthcare but I don't agree that "transition" surgery should be available on the NHS at all. It is not life saving or essential and in fact will involve constant hormones and drugs for the rest of the individuals life. Surgeries such as these were actually stopped at John Hopkins University, the most elite medical establishment in the USA, because research showed that 20 years later patients were MORE suicidal so it did not solve psychological conditions.

It's not an isolated incident.

Elective boob jobs should be prioritised above mastectomies for women with breast cancer; and it not being that was is "fata" apparently

Shows exactly how little some individuals value women/womanhood.

Oh? No Pic?

Trying again and also link with same image.
twitter.com/feministroar/status/1041813473049624578

buzzbobbly surely no one lacks that much self awareness. Astounding.

buzzbobblysurely no one lacks that much self awareness. Astounding

You have clearly never read the horrific garbage that states that as rape is about power , and trans people are the most oppressed members of society they have no power over cis women therefore it is not possible for them to rape them . Or words to that effect

@gerryblewuptheER

Sounds like science!

about as scientific as the different mouth feel and feminine smell of the female penis

thebluearsefly surely no one lacks that much self awareness. Astounding.

Strangely not at all but I know not one female in my entire life who would ever prioritise themselves in a similar fashion.

I've discussed it with the surgeons myself because coincidently it's MY ward she comes onto when she needs help. But it's not a priority despite her risking death every time. It's madness.

Trust me, it's seriously rationed! This is an outlier. Even getting an appointment for a first visit is hard for trans so most go private if they can. DD's friends are all bar one private patients, and the nhs one is at practice who are a teaching practice so have a different set up.

Yanbu. Absolutely not.

I agree with treacle

If trans prisoners can get full surgery on the NHS, then female prisoners should be able to get breast reductions. Women needing/wanting one often suffer emotional and physical distress prior to having one. I had back and neck pain for years that no physio, chiropractor or osteopath could fix. I worked out, did lots of back strengthening exercises but couldn't escape the pain until they were reduced. I'm betting there are female prisoners in the same situation. It's also a cheaper operation and needs no ongoing hormones/medication.

I'm betting a woman wanting a breast reduction in prison would get laughed at and sent on her way.

I'd be interested to know the number of gender change surgeries (cos nobody's sex gets changed) per trans prison population are carried out vs the non-prison population. It seems like a relatively high proportion of the trans prison population, given that it's small, get their (sexual) desires pandered to in this way.

axil
Unfortunately this research does not cover the exact query of how many operations carried out in prison (I suspect the MOJ would not have/not be willing to provide info in any case), but the enormous prevalence of sex offending amongst trans prisoners is shocking.

• 41% of trans women prisoners are there for sex offences (national male figure is more like a fifth)
• Half of the entire tw prison population is behind bars for sex offences OR crimes so serious they warrant a category A prison.
• These crimes are being recorded as female crime (women only make up 5% of the whole prison population, so this will seriously distort statistics)
• of the information available, there are no female trans people (trans men) listed as being in prison

fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-prisoners/