Mother sues Croydon primary school over ‘pride parade’

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f46e4a00-4dab-11e9-96ca-8fefe1a19859

A school holding a pride parade? That sounds lovely and inclusive. The placards are a tad worrying though...

If this was a lesson about MLK surely "I have a dream" would have been copied down from the whiteboard and so spelt correctly?

The LBG need to wake up fast. I fought clause 28 on the basis that people should be free to live their lives as human beings. The arguement for was that gay people would proselytize.

The behaviour of the trans lobby is exactly what everyone feared. How dare schools make children participate in Pride marches. This is brainwashing not education. I am soooooo furious.

But too many teachers are encouraging this. They really believe that the T are the most oppressed ever and by letting the T into their schools to share their stories and beliefs with children they are doing a good thing.
And the universities are churning out thousands more young people with the same uncritical beliefs.
I am so afraid that this won't change until the teenagers currently 'transitioning' hit adulthood and realise what has happened to them - but by then it will be too late.

I emailed our school over a week ago to ask whether Mermaids or Stonewall or All sorts have any involvement in the LGBT education provided. Haven't heard back, this thread reminds me to chase tomorrow.

But too many teachers are encouraging this. They really believe that the T are the most oppressed ever and by letting the T into their schools to share their stories and beliefs with children they are doing a good thing. You might find they are cowed by their HTs, the LBGT lead in their LA, even their union reps.

DSis is as close as she has ever been to just walking out over this. She knows the truth and the legalities but nobody is brave enough to stand up with her and say "no!" The older teachers are marking time and the younger ones are just doing what they are told to do... even the ones who question it. Remember they have all had training, they have all been to quite explocitly what is expected of them and how utterly horrid they will be if they disagree (read that as 'having their card makred' by some Great Unknown)

Universities have less control over the student body. If you look cloesley you will see that it is the student union and its offshoots that are utterly Woke and the establishment, for the main, trying to corral and control it without being authoriatarian - e as they are now merely businesses!

There is decaed of quiet changes to legislation that is feedng this. It won't go away quietly, it has becme too entrenched, snuck in under the radar!

That's why the Feminist boards here are so busy...

Yeah, I can imagine what sort of people have dreams like that. Wouldn’t want them anywhere near a kids school.

I have a bad feeling about this story. It feels like a set up.
I don't believe that's a child's handwriting.
I definitely don't believe that's a child's sentiment.
Who took the photo? And who wrote the whiteboard?
The photo isn't a picture of the child in question in any case.

Does anyone have a share token please?

Interesting child that misspells both 'girls' and 'boys' but nails 'toilet'

Ooh MsJeminaPuddleduck, you are like Miss Marple. Agree with everyone else that no child ever had dreams of gender neutral loos. Whether an adult wrote it or a child copied it, it is wrong to use children in this debate

What are they teaching at this school if this is supposedly what a 4 year old has been inspired to write.

My take on it was that they are dreaming of the day when all boys can sit down to pee on a toilet instead of standing up and splashing everywhere to save on girls having to clean the piss off the floor.

Whole thing is utterly ridiculous.

Then you have teachers complaining how hard their day is and how they don’t get a break all day then schools come out with this nonsense.

Primary school is for teaching to read and write something that is obviously severely lacking at this school.

Why do primary schools need to get involved with Pride Parades anyway.

The more I think about this the more disturbing it becomes actually. Boys and girls sharing the same loo has precisely fuck all to do with equality based on who you are attracted to, and even less to do with anything that a child of that age needs to be worrying about.

And thinking about it the spelling does seem quite suspect, purely because of the consistency at which the 'child' uses phase 3 sounds. For example, a child who has only learnt phase 3 sounds would have learnt 'er' so far, rather than 'ir' and 'oi' rather than 'oy'. But actually what a lot of kids at that stage do is miss out letters completely, so it would actually be spelt 'grls' because when they say the 'ir' sound they are only thinking about the final 'r' sound. When teachers are marking writing at that stage they are looking for the kids using the phonics they have been taught so far, even if it's wrong, but even bright kids won't nail every phoneme. 'Toilet' is actually plausible as it's phonetically spelt if you break it down, but again, because of the way we speak its more likely a child would spell it 'toilt' or 'toilut'.

I know I'm way over thinking this but actually it's quite interesting. And there is no way that a child came up with all of it (or any of it probably) themselves.

I have a bad feeling about this story. It feels like a set up.

It does to me, too. But I also thought the drag queen story time was a set up.

What do people mean by a set up?

It would be excellent to flood media with lots of extreme situations, which later could be proved as untrue. Then anytime someone complains about something that is true, like women being assaulted in prison, the element of doubt it there. It will be easier for tra to claim everything is false.

But, as I said, there are lots of things that tra do that I think are unbelievable.

I have a bad feeling about this story. It feels like a set up.

I'd really hope the Times did their due diligence?

Oh do people mean this is actually a 'Muslims want to ban Christmas' type story?

I don't know.

That wasn't thought of or written by a little girl.

I don't know what motivated the adult who did write it.

It could have been a tra, or a mock up? I don't know. Whatever is happening, little girls are being used by adults.

@Barracker

A Christian mother who refused to allow her four-year-old son to take part in an LGBT “pride parade” at primary school has formally complained to Damian Hinds, the education secretary, that the school had embarked on “systematic proselytism of its young and vulnerable pupils”.

She is also seeking a five-figure sum in compensation from the governing body of Heavers Farm Primary School in Croydon, south London, because she claims her family has been victimised. Izoduwa Montague, 35, said: “We have to make sure parents are back in control of what happens to their children in the school system. I don’t think we wave them goodbye at the school gates and say ‘do what you like with them’.”

A backlash from parents forced the school to downgrade its planned Proud to be Me! parade in June.

Susan Papas, the head teacher, said at the time: “I was surprised at how unembarrassed some parents were about coming into school and expressing quite strong homophobic views.”

Montague’s lawyers at the Christian Legal Centre argue that the school made “LGBT matters a pervasive element of school life”. The school’s website features a year 1 pupil with a placard that she had written after a lesson about Martin Luther King’s “I have a dream” speech: “I have a dreem if bois cood go to the saim toilet as gerls.”

I was with the complainant until I found that she was asking for compensation. I now suspect that this is not a freedom of thought issue but an all aboard the gravy train call.

I don't know about the sign being a set up but if you Google Izoduwa Montague, Izzy Montague or Izoduwa Adhedo there are loads of results including an appearance by Ms Montague on a day time tv show.

The story dates back to November 2018.

I was with the complainant until I found that she was asking for compensation

Me too. That element taints it badly.

Whichever sociopath has encouraged children to join in this weirdo adult obsession with the lavs wants putting away.

The compensation angle gave me pause for thought but it really depends on the motivation. Complaining and getting a worthless non-apology apology is one thing. Making the school realise that they face a real world sanction would make them pay attention.

I was with the complainant until I found that she was asking for compensation

Asking for compensation for an LGBT event at a school is ridiculous.

But the sign the little girl is holding up is very worrying. I hope that it is fake, because otherwise the school has serious problems.

The adult forgot to write 'as' as 'az'. Tut, schoolboy error. Ooops, am I allowed to say that? Sorry, 'schoolperson error' 🤦🏼‍♀️

I asked my Year 1 daughter "what's your dream?"
Her response was " I want to ride a unicorn"