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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Does anyone else feel this is affecting their mental health but also feel that it’s too important to walk away from?

129 replies

Destinysdaughter · 17/03/2019 23:53

I do. I’m on MN and Twitter every day and I feel so enraged and powerless by it all. It’s so fucking ridiculous and bullshit and gaslighting ( today I listened to a interview on Kent radio with ‘ Dr Rachel’ and I felt so angry I just wanted to chuck my phone across the room. ) I’m 54 and I cannot believe it’s come to this. The good Dr is saying, with a straight face, that there are no biological advantages between men and women? Even a child knows there are massive differences, why are we even debating this shit???

So I feel v conflicted between wanting to just walk away from this bollocks as it’s constant, but also feeling like I HAVE to know what’s going on, as it’s such a massive fight which we CANNOT lose.

I don’t want to live in this state of constantly feeling enraged. And I know there’s been a few small wins, but why, in 2019 are we having to fight for the literal definition for what the word woman means...???

OP posts:
hoodathunkit · 18/03/2019 13:28

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/11111584/GCHQ-employs-more-than-100-dyslexic-and-dyspraxic-spies.html

"We are well-known - thanks to The Sunday Times and others - for celebrating neuro-diversity and have many staff on the autistic spectrum, with Aspergers or other syndromes: they are precious assets and essential to our work of keeping the country safe."

www.gchq.gov.uk/speech/director-gchqs-speech-stonewall-workplace-conference-delivered

terryleather · 18/03/2019 13:33

I agree hipster that there are a lot of different things coming together to create the present shit show we're seeing and yes The Walking Woke (love that!) are utterly infuriating - I shall assume this position is correct without thinking about it because every other progressive does it too....^
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Do more thinking please people!!!

Knicknackpaddyflak · 18/03/2019 13:38

Hood I've always gone with the if it's a choice between malice and stupidity, it's almost always stupidity. Especially bearing in mind the rise of the chocolate tea pot professional politician, and the fact our current political elite caused Brexit.

Having heard The Mordaunt speak, or rather not speak, I'm not so sure. Since the days of Tony Blair, evil now turns up in nice suits with nice friendly smiles and uses a whole lot of buzz words intended to make awful things sound positive.

AIBUtopickanyoldname · 18/03/2019 13:45

I actually couldn’t sleep last night I was so angry about all the TRA twattwry I saw online yesterday.

I do sometimes wish I didn’t have to dedicate headspace to it. But it’s too important not to. If we ignore it we’ll just sleepwalk right into the TRA’s alternate reality and then we’ll be trapped behind the looking glass for the next however many decades, trying to get back to the ‘right side’.

hoodathunkit · 18/03/2019 14:41

Knicknackpaddyflak

I've always gone with the if it's a choice between malice and stupidity, it's almost always stupidity. Especially bearing in mind the rise of the chocolate tea pot professional politician, and the fact our current political elite caused Brexit.

I agree that incompetence and stupidity is usually a more reasonable conclusion than malice and conspiracies.

It is always sensible to look to the most likely cause of anything than to speculate wildly.

Also I think that, when the word appears to be going down the toilet it can be reassuring to think that there are networks of elite co-conspirators trying to take over the world rather than imagine that nobody knows what is going on.

However there are definitely conspiracies at play here and definitely astroturfing.

For the record I do not think that GCHQ / MI5 / MI6 are at the heart of this

The fact that they openly state that they value neurological-atypical people as precious human assets suggests this.

Anyone interested in researching how criminal networks, quacks and cults are attempting to recruit neuro-atypical people it is worth looking into "indigo children" and other associated categories (started with indigo children, then there was crystal children, then star seeds, lightworkers, I lose track, new categories are being invented all the time).

Also there are lots of new age entrepreneurs, usually quacks with no proper training or credentials, offering various kinds of training and personal development courses for people with ADHD and who are on the spectrum.

A google search for autism and quackery is illuminating

Apologies for going off on a tangent on this important thread, I should start another on the subjects I am interested in

TinselAngel · 18/03/2019 14:43

Yes. I want to help other trans widows but I worry me doing so is making me dwell on the past more than I should..

VickyEadie · 18/03/2019 14:49

I find myself regularly enraged that people are spouting such obvious lies and nonsense - 'no difference between men and women', ffs! HOW do they let McKinnon get away with that utter bullshit? More to the point, why is McKinnon still being invited on to the media, when they post such vile stuff as telling women to "STFU" about wanting a female HCP?

NellieEllie · 18/03/2019 18:04

I feel exactly the same OP! I’ve only recently realised what was going on - since the consultation period for GRA reforms. I am also in my 50s So had a fair while to identify sexism and misogyny and see it in whatever guise. I have had to just have a period of not engaging with it, no Twitter, no mumsnet feminist chat as I get so furious, so frustrated. There’s an obvious objective reality. And then there’s a totally idiotic hand in ears la la la -ing and chanting of mantras. As though if you want something hard enough, you can have it.

I’m terrified for children, and for the non questioning, affirmative approach. I’m incensed about the sports question, and the blithe acceptance that male bodies in women’s and girl’s spaces presents no issue - safeguarding or any other. Self Id is nonsense. I hate that my views are dismissed as ‘transphobic’ and that people risk the end of their careers if they speak out.

I am utterly disenfranchised as all the main political parties have surrendered to the insanity. I am bereft that there is no voice for me on the left any more.

I honestly see it as society becoming so intensely narcissistic, inward looking, entitled and individualistic, that any sense of “not fitting in” or “being different” means you are entitled to some magic “cure” so that life becomes “perfect”, and you are “special”.

Rant over. Cup of coffee and a biscuit....

FamilyOfAliens · 18/03/2019 18:04

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TurboTeddy · 18/03/2019 18:06

Well done, Family and good luck.

Daughterofmabel · 18/03/2019 18:12

Good for you family

hipsterfun · 18/03/2019 18:39

That’s encouraging, Family, well done.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 18/03/2019 18:50

I agree entirely with the OP. I feel that way. Sometimes I have to step away to function in real time with the stresses of life but I always come back and do my best to take small steps, signing petitions, writing to my MP etc. I have to do this for my daughters. I am so grateful for all the amazing women who are with me on this journey.

I agree the insanity and 1984-ness of it all is absolutely appalling - my 2 year old can tell male from female adults, it's bloody obvious! No-one is fooled if a male body wears a dress and make-up: then you're just a man in a dress and make-up - and good luck to all those amazing men who are happy being men in dresses and make-up though I never saw the appeal of make-up myself, seems like a massive waste of time... but such superficial bollocks does not change your sex.

Lumene · 18/03/2019 18:53

Yes.

Floisme · 18/03/2019 18:56

I haven't had to step away yet but I do have days when the only way I can deal with it is to laugh and take the piss.

terryleather · 18/03/2019 19:30

Brilliant Family, fingers crossed your bravery will pay off!

Oldermum156 · 18/03/2019 19:34

I do have to walk away frequently to keep my sanity. I just don't have the energy for this on a daily basis.

FamilyOfAliens · 18/03/2019 19:57

Thanks everyone - just realised it wouldn’t take much for someone so inclined to identify my LA and put pressure on them so I asked MNHQ to remove it.

sagradafamiliar · 18/03/2019 20:12

Yeah it's badly, badly affecting me.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 18/03/2019 22:17

Yes, OP.

Melroses · 18/03/2019 22:33

Yes Yes Yes - you need little oases of calm in your life where you are switched off from this and doing something for yourself.

I recommend singing Grin.

There are choirs everywhere - all sorts of music - many where you don't need to be able to read music. Wine

SignMeUp · 18/03/2019 22:36

Yes OP. I also need to take breaks. Also don't read books as much as I used to. Also dream about this. Also don't have many real life friends to talk to.
I am curious from the positive responses what Family said, if possible to paraphrase?
Thanks for all the SANITY here on MN

FamilyOfAliens · 18/03/2019 22:43

sign

Basically talking about a small victory I had in getting my LA’s education safeguarding lead to look at the TransgenderTrend toolkit for schools and raising the issue of the importance of doing impact assessments when considering making changes on these issues. I also alerted her to the political nature of some of the groups pushing these resources into schools.

I’m going to put myself forward for the working party she’s setting up to look at these issues across the whole LA.

SignMeUp · 18/03/2019 22:48

Great work Family Thanks

chilling19 · 18/03/2019 22:50

It's sure going to make watching series 3 of the Handmaid's Tale even tougher than the first two. It is practically a documentary now.

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