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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Radio 5 now talking about trans sports people

85 replies

ginandbearit · 04/03/2019 09:07

Just starting

OP posts:
MillytantForceit · 04/03/2019 09:48

Prof of Sports Science lays down the law to all the fuckwit sociologists with a PhD in Bullshitting.

Objectivity Lives.

Calvinsmam · 04/03/2019 09:49

There is no way they will go for a third option. But it's worth suggesting, constantly. Because it forces them to say why

Absolutely, it helps people see it for what it is. It’s not about equality or just a poor little trans person wanting to play a sport.
It’s about validation and they couldn’t give a fuck if that means taking things from women.

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 04/03/2019 09:49

Who is this Verity person?

BoreOfWhabylon · 04/03/2019 09:49

Idiot Nicky Ross - "It's clearly ludicrous to have separate categories"

Gah!

Bloody Mesmac on!

MhairiV · 04/03/2019 09:50

This insistence on throwing in exceptions as reasons to disregard the rule is absurd. "This one female born person once won this thing"...so effing what? What does that even mean in real terms? Just meaningless noise.

BoreOfWhabylon · 04/03/2019 09:50

Verity - Mesmac

borntobequiet · 04/03/2019 09:51

Who would watch a Transgender Games? Apart from transpeople. I don’t think it would be cost effective to put on...and the argument and bickering would be spectacular. Well maybe it would be worth it for that.

MillytantForceit · 04/03/2019 09:51

Nicky Campbell.

(But Nick Ross is also a fool.)

And now we have someone deliberately confusing elite sport with sport for everyday health and fitness.

andyoldlabour · 04/03/2019 09:52

Lucy and Verity are very shouty - what a surprise!

BoreOfWhabylon · 04/03/2019 09:55

YY meant Nicky Campbell. Tosser.

andyoldlabour · 04/03/2019 09:55

"all our nanomoles are different"

WTF is that moronic Nicky Campbell talking about?

BoreOfWhabylon · 04/03/2019 09:56

Yes! Sensible woman spelling out the law

MhairiV · 04/03/2019 09:59

www.stmarys.ac.uk/staff-directory/john-brewer

Is this the right guy?

Datun · 04/03/2019 10:00

Thank God you lot are watching this and updating. My blood pressure can't take it.

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 04/03/2019 10:00

Yeah the law buuuut it’s just a few chromosomes that went wrong and when the doctor slapped us on the arse they recorded our gender wrongly.

Oh ok, petal.

How, how does Nicky think this person is a “brilliant spokesperson”?

andyoldlabour · 04/03/2019 10:01

The sports scientist smashes it out of the park.
There is no debating science - end of!

andyoldlabour · 04/03/2019 10:03

"Thank God you lot are watching this and updating. My blood pressure can't take it."

I may have to take another BP tablet at this rate Grin

BoreOfWhabylon · 04/03/2019 10:05

That's him! Just tracked him down on twitter and followed @sportprofbrewer

The Pro-Trans in women's sport didn't want to hear any of it, did they?

Changing over to R4 now as Penny Mordaunt is going to be on.

andyoldlabour · 04/03/2019 10:06

Verity is a transgender rugby player, who has played against plenty of 6' 3" 23 stone women.
Glad I don't live anywhere near Verity Grin

charlestonchaplin · 04/03/2019 10:08

Talk about wanting to eat your cake and have it! This Verity from MESMAC is transitioning to male, has a male appearance and physique due to taking testosterone, but continues to play for Rotherham Ladies rugby, despite the obvious unhappiness of others in the sport.

charlestonchaplin · 04/03/2019 10:09

I think Verity is actually of the female sex.

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 04/03/2019 10:12

Well yes Verity had a hysterectomy, so is very much of the female sex.

MhairiV · 04/03/2019 10:14

Verity's story is sad. Sounds like she's had a tough time. Nonetheless, I can't agree with her on position re: trans women in women's sport. (Not deliberately misgendering here, I genuinely have no idea which Verity prefers)

www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/sport/view,worth-fighting-for-the-sporting-story-of-transmale-rugby-player-verity-smit_29725.htm

andyoldlabour · 04/03/2019 10:15

"I think Verity is actually of the female sex."

Yes, but is taking testosterone and competing against women. Have a look at Verity.

twitter.com/veritysmith19?lang=en

charlestonchaplin · 04/03/2019 10:18

So her position would logically be that we should ignore testosterone altogether. Any level is fine and both transmen and transwomen can compete with women if they choose to do so. Double whammy.

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