Cancelling tv licence: stop funding misogyny

[Victoriapestis]

I do appreciate the recent panorama programme showed some progress in the BBC’s trans coverage. But overall my impresssion is that the BBC has sadly become an unbalanced, pro gender stereotype, misogynistic organisation that is actively damaging women’s rights, deliberately silencing gender critical voices, and thereby normalising oppressive and damaging behaviour. (I’m feeling cross.)

I feel very uncomfortable about the fact my payments are subsiding this and really want to stop. I would not fund pornhub, because of the damage it does, normalising stereotypes, etc, and similarly don’t want to fund the bbc.

So, has anyone else cancelled on this ground? Did you contact tv licensing to say why? And what hoops does one need to jump through?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost, I'm not sure why you're trying to pretend I haven't read the thread?

If you'd read the thread(!) you would realise you and I are not the only people on it, and not all of my posts are in answer solely to you...

"Now I agree with you completely that they should have given direct links. And I'd guess they got pressured by people who DO use the complaints procedures – very adeptly."

No that's not what happened. It took an open letter from a large variety of large womens orgs and medical orgs. They did not use the BBC complaints procedure "adeptly". They didn't use it at all! Or if they did, it's not where they got their result from.

You don't know what you're talking about

I’m not prepared to boycott the BBC either. I agree with Perking.

This boycott will achieve nothing, imo. Same as the silly boycott of Ocado (for what, exactly?).

I don’t like being manipulated and this feels very much like it.

not all of my posts are in answer solely to you...

Right, okay, but you did quote me and respond to me....

If only women would be more "adept" of our use of the BBC complaints procedure, they would listen!

Fuckign stupid women can't even use the complaints procedure properly

Tanith

You can spend your money where you like
So can everyone else

Why should women be forced to give their money to orgs because you say so?

I have to say I think the power of MN is somewhat over-estimated here.

This boycott will achieve nothing, imo

I'm not sure boycott is the right word, but It will save people £154 this year.

OMG I JUST SAW THE BBC HAS COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN AS THE CANCELLATION OF 2 WOMENS LICENCE FEES MEANT FINANCIAL RUIN

Just seen it on Fox News via the Bastard Broadcasters Assocation of Evil News and Killing Baby Animals

Who'd a thunk it

Oh plan worked!

Same as the silly boycott of Ocado (for what, exactly?).

People who didn't agree with the political leaning of the company stopped shopping there. Does there have to be a reason?

I worry about the psychological strnegth of a person who sees / hears another person saying "I'm going to stop buying X for ethical / political reaosns"

And takes it as an imperative command that they must follow the same course of action.

No one is going to "Bring down" the BBC....
People are going to stop paying for something they don't agree with.

The BBC make Billions of pounds, the BBC is fine.

Oh SardineQueen, no, you've misunderstood me. (Sorry, should have been clearer.)

I'm guessing the BBC were responding to previous complaints and lobbying against "promoting abortion", that caused them to pull their punches when it came to making the links.

Otherwise it's a really odd decision to have a major programme about abortion and then chicken out about something minor like internet links (which anyone can find anyway via Google).

The public letters by the women's groups and medics were a spot on way to push back. They say, "Oi, that lot may be shouting at you over there. But we're shouting at you over here. If you responded to their public opinion, you'd better to respond to ours too."

No one is going to "Bring down" the BBC....
I wish someone bloody would.
For their bias in reporting.
That’s without getting into using public money to support paedophiles and close ranks on any dissenters. Fuck the BBC, and their wrong think.

Frankly they all stink like a barrel of rotten fish. Whether you stream for free (which seems a bit hypocritical) or pay for them.

TLDR: it was the pro-lifers I was describing as probably having used the complaints procedure adeptly, over time.

I know the BBC certainly used to take pressure seriously, and can be a bit of an oil tanker to change direction.

(I could of course be wrong; it could simply have been one person in one part of the BBC who made an individual choice about which links to put, on a programme which was obviously produced by a different unit.

In which case it will down to the individual, or to their unit, without influence by explicit lobbying.)

In addition to the other reasons given I think 154 is a lot of bloody money and far too much to be honest. Lots of people simply can't afford that - for what? Most people could pay for at least two streaming services with that money, or, you know food or school clothes for the kids.

Also, the threatening letters they send are a scandal, really bullying and nasty and that alone is enough to stop paying for the license because actually I don't want my money spent on bullying people. I used to get their bullying letters all the time in a flat I lived in even though I HAD a tv license and had repeatedly told them so, I suppose someone in the block wasn't paying and they just weren't fussed about getting it right. There were vulnerable people in that block too - elderly people who could have been scared and confused by those letters.

Perking what are you on about

You used call the midwife prog on abortion to say bbc are great fab and awesome

I said that leaving out links to abortion advice at the end as it's a "controversial" subject was wrong wrong wrong

They initially stuck to their guns saying that if you clicked through to NHS you could find the info

Eventually they seem to have backed down and published links after letter signed by large number of womens orgs healthcare orgs etc

And it being a story in a lot of the mainstream press

Your guessing about what happened here there is hard to follow, and I'm not sure what the point is

BBC is supposed to be unbiased, deciding not to publish links to respected orgs about a legal medical procedure is BIAS

It really was a shit example and multiple posts of you thinking out loud don't change that.

At the end of progs viewers are pointed to a action page

It is not specific to each prog

You don't really know what you're talking about do you

In fact they STILL don't have it on the front page

"Pregnancy issues
Pregnancy, infertility, pre & post natal depression, premature birth, miscarriage, still birth, child bereavement"

But if you click pregnancy there is now a link to NHS Abortion guidance

Abortion should be a header of its own in that category.

They are fucking pathetic

SardineQueen, I agree with you that it was wrong not to have direct links to abortion advice services after Call the Midwife.

I don't agree that therefore it's a great idea to boycott the whole BBC. Which commissioned and showed the hour-long programme in the first place.

Not following you, SardineQueen.

When I go to the Call the Midwife front page, I see a link for "Information and Support", which goes to a page that looks like this. If you can read it, it includes " NHS Advice on Abortion"

Is that not what you are seeing?

That's here: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1KhLYgXHRxyw67mkGRRXQ3R/information-and-support-pregnancy-related-issues

Yes

Because they changed it after massive adverse publicity

But not immediately

Your argument that the call the midwife thing shows how great the BBC is, its a bad example

Also, your idea that the pro life perople used the complaints process successfully due to them being 'adept' at it

Is also a terrible thing

As they shouldn't exclude info about a legal medical process due to pressure from religious groups

THAT is bias

The points you think you are making do not support your argument in any way

They are all demonstrating that the BBC is biased
And susceptible to interference from extreme pressure groups