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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cancelling tv licence: stop funding misogyny

141 replies

Victoriapestis · 02/03/2019 23:30

I do appreciate the recent panorama programme showed some progress in the BBC’s trans coverage. But overall my impresssion is that the BBC has sadly become an unbalanced, pro gender stereotype, misogynistic organisation that is actively damaging women’s rights, deliberately silencing gender critical voices, and thereby normalising oppressive and damaging behaviour. (I’m feeling cross.)

I feel very uncomfortable about the fact my payments are subsiding this and really want to stop. I would not fund pornhub, because of the damage it does, normalising stereotypes, etc, and similarly don’t want to fund the bbc.

So, has anyone else cancelled on this ground? Did you contact tv licensing to say why? And what hoops does one need to jump through?

OP posts:
CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 10:04

You always get people posting what looks like press releases on these threads.

Doglikeme · 03/03/2019 10:08

I haven't paid mine for a while.
I think it's disgusting the intimidation tactics they use. The stories of the agency they use sending burly men to intimidate women with their young children in the house were enough for me to cancel. I think the misogyny has been going on for a while. Glad people are taking a stand finally.

Needmoresleep · 03/03/2019 10:16

I don’t think the issue is a boycott, but the need for the BBC to stay relevant. They apparently lost close to a million license fee payers last year.

I effectively have 4 TV licenses. My mum, for whom I am attorney, has a free one. We have one on our own home. We also have one on a small flat we own near my mum even though we normally use the time down there to catch up on DVDs, and I finally decided to buy one for my daughters student flat as a moving in present, thinking that they would probably decide to save the money but might then be caught.

The latter two aren’t really needed and will become less needed the less relevant the BBC becomes. Perhaps next year I won’t bother, and contribute two more to the total of defectors.

I think the BBC has confused “yoof” with “woke”. A surprising number of young people are surprisingly conservative, though often thoughtful and liberal towards others. They have little time for the Lily Madigans/NUS/Oh Jeremy Corbyn. They are the viewers of the future, and the BBC does not seem to understand.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 10:31

A surprising number of young people are surprisingly conservative, though often thoughtful and liberal towards others. They have little time for the Lily Madigans/NUS/Oh Jeremy Corbyn. They are the viewers of the future, and the BBC does not seem to understand.

Yes politics has changed massively over the last 20 years, most young people these days are as you point out centrist with a slight lean.

GetRid · 03/03/2019 10:34

CaptainKirks did you actually read my 'press release' or do you just have sarky comments to make? What's your response to what I wrote? What do you think life without a public broadcaster would be like?

LangCleg · 03/03/2019 10:45

A surprising number of young people are surprisingly conservative, though often thoughtful and liberal towards others. They have little time for the Lily Madigans/NUS/Oh Jeremy Corbyn. They are the viewers of the future, and the BBC does not seem to understand.

Neither of my kids are Woke. And of both their friendship networks, I can only think of one girl who is - and even she is more proto-Woke than a fully paid up Kool Aid drinker.

I also question whether or not Auntie understands this demographic.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 10:47

I did read.

The BBC is a Billion pound company, they make and will continue to make "Attenborough shows" which sell overseas, likewise PBS, ABC (Australia) NHK (Hong Kong) and Sky will also continue to use him, as they have been over the last 100 years.

UKTV and The Iplayer will all still exist as these are funded by money from the commercial arm, as will anything made by BBC Studios.

S4C (Welsh) will still exist.

Ad free childrens content can be found on any streaming service, Educational childrens content can be found anywhere.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 10:53

The World Service is funded by the licence fee, but like other radio services a lot of money comes from BBC Worldwide Ltd, which is the arm which deals with Dvd's programme sales and other money making ventures; advertisments from BBC channels outside the UK (BBC America for example) and so on.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 10:56

They make money from 200 territories around the world, they are not some small public service, they are a big money making monopoly.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 11:02

BBC America
BBC Arabic
BBC Brit
BBC Canada
BBC Earth
BBC Entertainment
BBC First (Australia)
BBC First (Dutch)
BBC HD
BBC Kids
BBC Knowledge
BBC Lifestyle

In the UK:
Dave, Drama, Home, Really, Alibi, Eden, Gold, Good Food, W and Yesterday.

All make money for 'BBC Studios'.

tirisfalpumpkin · 03/03/2019 11:11

It’s an outdated model - I haven’t had a TV licence since I left home at 18 and I don’t think I’ve missed out on anything. There are better and less biased news sources, and the bits of their programming I value (about 90% David Attenborough) is available through other media.

If I had a licence, I’d be cancelling it. And am still off the Ocado. No intention of returning unless they apologise properly.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 11:18

No more new, exciting programmes/comedy/new formats that wouldn't be developed by a commercial company because of the risk

This is stretching things isn't it.

GetRid · 03/03/2019 11:28

CaptainKirks but if the BBC got broken up and sold off in parts, you'd end up with people paying as much for subscriptions to these commercial firms as you would for the license fee. And what about news that's not dominated by Murdoch, that prioritises commercially unviable foreign news and local reporting etc?

And bringing it back to the op, what's to say that any of these new commercial services wouldn't become 'an unbalanced, pro gender stereotype, misogynistic organisation that is actively damaging women’s rights'. Yes you'd have the right to cancel your subscription but like I said originally, are you going to live without YouTube, Netflix, Amazon, Sky etc just because you don't agree with a few of their programmes? I expect you'll find many disagreeable shows on all of these outlets.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 11:36

but if the BBC got broken up and sold off in parts, you'd end up with people paying as much for subscriptions to these commercial firms as you would for the license fee

You'd have a choice of what you wanted. And most would be on other services wouldn't they, like Netflix.

what about news that's not dominated by Murdoch, that prioritises commercially unviable foreign news and local reporting etc?

BBC news isn't balanced now, it's as biased as Murdoch press but in the other direction. Doy ou not understand the issue?
The world service would be the same.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 11:38

I'd rather not pay to a company that covered up a paedophile ring and give biased reporting in news.

It isn't about a programme, its about paying for something that supposed to be unbiased but isn't.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 11:52

The BBC world serivce has only been funded by the licence fee since 2014, It can cope without it.

BBC World News is commercial.

BBC Alba isn't funded by the licence fee at all, but by the Gaelic Media Service and the Scotish government.

You seem to think all BBC new services are going to suddenly stop if the Fee isn't paid.

andyoldlabour · 03/03/2019 12:34

GetRid

For a long time now, the BBC has been in decline. The morning news has turned into a "gigglefest" where the various presenters joke amongst themselves or promote their own rdeality shows. There is hardly any news content, and if you turn over to BBC News 24 it is a mirror image.
BBC coverage of sport is a poor reflection of what it was a few decades ago - no test match cricket, no Formula 1.
BBC documentaries used to be the best, but hardly exist any more, and when they do, they are usually heavily biased.
To call the BBC a public broadcaster is just a joke, because they have no idea what the average member of the public thinks, or what they have to endure on a daily basis.
Then you have their overpaid, sexist, ageist presenters such as Jeremy Vine and John Inverdale to name just two.
There are plenty of alternatives out there, and if you have Freeview, well the clue is in the name.

MillytantForceit · 03/03/2019 13:00

On the plus side, Sky News have stopped using Fox reporters and have their own US correpondents.

On the minus side, Kay Burley.

SardineQueenII · 03/03/2019 13:10

Whenever there is a boycott thing on here there is horror. It was the same with Ocado Grin

It's pretty unlikely that a thread on MN with a smallish group of women saying they will cancel their licences will bring down the BBC!!!

What is actually the point is to stop women / guilt them into not making perfectly rational reasonable decisions about what sort of orgs they give their money to.

PerkingFaintly · 03/03/2019 13:16

WTF?

Why would you feel guilty about not paying for the BBC? If you prefer the Murdoch media, give your money to them – as you may already do. The Sun sells very well, so somebody's buying it.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 13:18

It's pretty unlikely that a thread on MN with a smallish group of women saying they will cancel their licences will bring down the BBC!!!

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Unfeathered · 03/03/2019 13:19

Really can't believe how many people still pay for a TV licence to be honest!! It's archaic, like the BBC and needs scrapping.

justasking111 · 03/03/2019 13:21

Out of curiosity if you cease to pay your licence, what do folk watch instead?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 03/03/2019 13:24

what do folk watch instead

Netflix and all the catch up services apart from Iplayer.

andyoldlabour · 03/03/2019 13:33

Out of curiosity if you cease to pay your licence, what do folk watch instead?

Have you heard of Freeview, there are scores of alternative channels.