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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rapper Zuby breaks British Women's deadlift record...

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TransposersArePosers · 27/02/2019 10:17

I have just seen this on the www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3518988-Rachel-McKinnon-weightlifter-and-Abigail-Shrier#prettyPhoto thread posted by Clitherow and felt it needed a separate mention. If I was on twitter I'd follow him!

twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status/1100348562041462784

Clitherow wrote:

Don't know if this link has come through - never done this before, but rapper Zuby breaks British women's deadlifting record (whatever that is - sport not my thing) whilst identifying as a woman - pisses off Rachel Mckinnon and gains 2500 followers in 24 hours

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Ereshkigal · 28/02/2019 08:24

I mean her! Sorry for misgendering you Zuby. Now I'm thinking we should all get these...

The writing even glows in the dark - how great is that? Agree it could be a code

Xiaoxiong · 28/02/2019 08:30

Rue it was such a perfect image!!! I would have credited you if I'd known who you were. You completely shut that person down.

I posted two things on FB yesterday - one about detransitioners, one about a friend who wrote a book. I have had tonnes of likes and comments on the latter and not a single sausage on the former, not even a single like!? I mean, I'm happy I didn't get the expected pile-on (I have in the past) but not to have anything is just odd...

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 28/02/2019 08:40

I'm listening to Zuby now

lovely enunciation Zuby, I can understand every word Star

nice to hear a woman expressing herself

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 28/02/2019 08:41

although I've just heard the line 'too much love, I could never be a feminist'

I'm not sure Zuby understands what feminism is (the Mumsnet version I mean, not the Jane Fae version)

ILoveMaxiBondi · 28/02/2019 09:06

I hate to break it to you zubes but I think you just might be a feminist Grin

Lamaha · 28/02/2019 09:31

I posted two things on FB yesterday - one about detransitioners, one about a friend who wrote a book. I have had tonnes of likes and comments on the latter and not a single sausage on the former, not even a single like!? I mean, I'm happy I didn't get the expected pile-on (I have in the past) but not to have anything is just odd...

Same here. Silence on the issue. I have literally hundreds of FB friends and relatives but I only know exactly four of them who are openly GC, and they are all UK writers: one is Posie Parker, the other is Julie Raven (Burchill), the other two are novelist friends. I have hundreds of other novelist friends who have not said a word (as I haven't) though yesterday I noticed that one of them follows glinner.
I am not yet in a position to out myself, unfortunately. But I'm gearing up to do so.
I contribute openly to the GC threads of those four friends, however. I'm never sure who can read my comments on FB.
I have a ton of US "friends" who are very trans-friendly. I think the US has a big problem. It's so entrenched already, and you have Obama who is so loved and who started the whole pro-trans thing, and Trump who upholds the GC stance but is loathed by the left. What are they to do?

EweSurname · 28/02/2019 09:37

Recognise that policy should be evidence-based and not partisan!

WeRiseUp · 28/02/2019 10:19

I've spent two days laughing but this morning I've woken up feeling grumpy because yet again - and sorry if I'm misgendering you Zuby - it's people sitting up and taking notice when a man says something.

Agreed, but that's how it is for every low status class of people. I think it's great that Zuby is offering a place on his (her?) platform for feminists though - let's hope women aren't so bloody self-negating they push a male trans ally to take the offer up.

It's an uneasy relationship with male allies and the way I try to see it is that it will take a long time to end the cultural misogyny where women's knowledge, work and opinions are dismissed out of hand as worthless by the vast majority of people (including by other women) so we're forced to play the long game, otherwise we'll go bloody nuts with frustration.

At least the arguments are given an airing and can open up an avenue for female influence when men take them on. They'll still need correcting because of their own bias towards men (Johnny Best has needed this a few times) - but it is opening up avenues. Perhaps we need to get better at pushing women into those openings - since males feel more entitled to be heard than women and will rush in to fill the void.

TwitterLovesMAPs · 28/02/2019 11:35

I’m confused. I’m married but I watched the video and now I think I’m a lesbian?

Does that mean I should trans so that I can be a straight white man?

HawayMan · 28/02/2019 12:03

Has anyone sent this thread to him/her?

AssignedFuckerAtBirth · 28/02/2019 12:45

I just tweeted him a link there now Haway

Iused2BanOptimist · 28/02/2019 12:49

I think the US has a big problem. It's so entrenched already, and you have Obama who is so loved and who started the whole pro-trans thing, and Trump who upholds the GC stance but is loathed by the left. What are they to do?

This ^

But the GC women over there are looking to the UK to lead the push back.

BettyDuMonde · 28/02/2019 13:34

I believe Zuby’s sister has already told him about his new Mumsnet fanbase 😂

HawayMan · 28/02/2019 13:53

He's debating with the TRAs and destroying them! Grin

HawayMan · 28/02/2019 13:54

Oh no! I didn't mean to misgender him/ her! I wish MN let us edit posts!

BettyDuMonde · 28/02/2019 13:57

It’s ok, Zuby is a he on Thursdays.

TowelNumber42 · 28/02/2019 14:00

I've been meaning to broaden my musical horizons.

I have a horrific day of work stuff for the next two days but you know what, I'm going to spend every spare minute learning to Karaoke one of Zuby/Zubella's tracks then play it through Spotify loudly while dancing round the kitchen singing along on Saturday.

My teenagers will be MORTIFIED. I do love trolling them. I am quite good at bump and grind. I think I shall spare them that. Unless they give me shit over their housework and homework. Then I'm dancing myself down low. Mwah ha ha. Husband will die laughing.

BettyDuMonde · 28/02/2019 14:07

Waitrose will be full of middle aged women in Zuby t shirts soon.

HawayMan · 28/02/2019 14:24

Have any media outlets reported this story yet?

LangCleg · 28/02/2019 14:25

My teenagers will be MORTIFIED. I do love trolling them.

Ha! I spent yesterday trolling mine about this with slay, queen.

They say they're never TERFing with me again!

LauraMipsum · 28/02/2019 14:33

I'd never heard of him before, I'm listening to his music and love it!

lady69 · 28/02/2019 14:50

Lamaha, we have friends in common so wondering if we may be FB friends too. If you ever post on FB about all this I will support you!

rosablue · 28/02/2019 15:02

Is Zuby ever a Ze or a Zu (or indeed a Za, Zi or Zo if those exist?)

Could have quite an alliterative ring to it to identify to on a Saturday perhaps...?

Lamaha · 28/02/2019 15:08

Lamaha, we have friends in common so wondering if we may be FB friends too. If you ever post on FB about all this I will support you!

Messaged you. I am not yet ready to go GC live on my own account but I like and comment on the GC posts of others all the time!
I suppose it's about all my old US liberal writer friends who have gone full pro-trans and would immediately de-friend me if I came out. I've known and interacted with some of them for over a decade and have shared so many important moments... I prefer to be silent and watch. It's also a good way to gauge which way the wind is blowing over there.

litereally · 28/02/2019 15:37

Got "called out" by a former friend over retweeting Zuby's stunning and brave world record attempt which got ugly, so all these comments are making me feel a bit like I am not a humourless evil disappointment secret right-winger who only "does this" because glinner has brainwashed me, and maybe, just maybe, there are people who get it.

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