Rachel McKinnon, weightlifter and Abigail Shrier

[Iggypoppie]

Two giant transwomen discuss how males bodies don't provide a sporting advantage. Hats off to Abigail for keeping calm against the lunacy.
player.vimeo.com/video/319229534

And I don't think bleating on about the size difference helps tbh. That tweet from Abigail was ill judged.

Remember how much interviewers loved Caitlyn Jenner? I imagine RK will be much the same. Big brother here she comes.

Not when McKinnon refuses to debate those that are likely to effectively challenge eg Nic Williams

Yes that's pathetic. But we need interviewers who actually challenge this.

What we need is someone like Gabby Logan

I actually wonder if they are using RM on purpose to polarise the debate. Rachel has done more for the cause than Rachel can ever appreciate. A one person wake up call.

'Delete your account '? Can you imagine if feminists routinely treated TRAs that way?

Hope Abigail tells RMcK that they should be the one to delete their account for actively saying she was deliberately bullying her.

It’s obviously true otherwise she would have been able to give an answer instead of demanding that she silence her twitter account. Sounds like somebody is scared and doesn’t want her to be able to say anything...

Most people have been mass blocked by McKinnon even that they have never tweeted McKinnon.

What is McKinnon frightened off ?

I watched that interview in full, the visuals are fantastic, people born male should compete against other males. That doesn’t stop them living as their authentic selves & presenting as female.
A mans human rights do not mean that they have the right to compete against women. The IOC really needs to get their guidelines & rules in order, to prevent further abuse of them.

From McKinnon's website www.rachelmckinnon.com/

I am one of the only transgender world champions in any sport. I achieved this in my 2018 UCI Masters Track Cycling gold medal in the Women 35-44 Sprint event in Los Angeles.

In the summer of 2018, I reached a UCI Elite world ranking of 90th in the sprint event. My goal is to compete for Canada in the 2020 and 2024 Olympics. This might make me the first out transgender Olympian.

Interested that someone who competes in the opposite sex they were born to and asserts this gives them - a natal male - no advantage, published in 2015:
The Norms of Assertion: Truth, Lies, and Warrant.

This book is about the norms of the speech act of assertion. This is a topic of lively contemporary debate.....Whenever we make claims like this, we’re asserting. The central question here is whether we need to know what we say, and, relatedly, whether what we assert must be true.

I'll say.......

The size difference between the transwomen and the woman will not have escaped the notice of the viewers.

Rachel has set arguments, that Rachel spews all over twitter and the media - but personally I found Abigail's arguments far more compelling.

And the evidence of the viewers' own eyes did not deceive them - Rachel and that power lifter have a clear biological advantage over women. They should not be competing with women.

I think RM sounds intelligent because they are confident and believe thy are right but really is talking a load of nonsense and that really could be seen towards the end of the interview.

I really want to see them debating a GC feminist - they would fall apart!

Manchester in October.
Perhaps someone in the cycling world can keep us updated regarding which days spectators should attend.

Oh I hadn't heard "McKinnon Move" before That's very good!

frazzled1

"In the summer of 2018, I reached a UCI Elite world ranking of 90th in the sprint event."

The problem with saying stuff like that, is that it is easily checked using the UCI World ranking tables.
This link will not show McKinnon's name present anywhere. Make the usual adjustments, as it defaults to Men and 2019.

www.uci.org/track/rankings

Slight adjustment, McKinnon is ranked 104th in the 2019 rankings.

twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status/1100348562041462784

Don't know if this link has come through - never done this before, but rapper Zuby breaks British women's deadlifting record (whatever that is - sport not my thing) whilst identifying as a woman - pisses off Rachel Mckinnon and gains 2500 followers in 24 hours

I love where zuby said “ I identified as a woman whilst lifting the weight Don’t be a bigot “.
😂😂

Sums it all up really

What a g!

RM’s treatment of Shrier is appalling.

Sarah Ditum handed RM RM’s arse on a plate on the radio a few days later - wonder why RM isn’t subjecting Ditum to similar treatment?

Presumably because that would draw attention to RM being trounced?

In other news, this dude isn’t a Feminist, but has a blue tick and knows the difference between male and female bodies. Will Rachel be subjecting him to a campaign of online bullying and demanding he deletes his account? I doubt it.

Then he took the British women’s bench press record
Strong stunning and brave he said
Gotta fight bigotry 😂😂😂😂😂

Oops, too slow!

More from Zuby:

I'm loving Zuby's work here...

God, doesn't it make a change from all the beardy dude-bro's calling women bigots, and using trans-activism as an outlet for their misogyny.

I was eye rolling throughout that whole video - but the worst part is, on twitter she thinks she did amazingly?

I just cannot say she when it’s RM, sorry, but anyway, RM on Twitter has the most echoey echo chamber there is - much worse than LM - so ni contradictions ever appear & RM goes blithely on with RM’s fictional narrative.

The wheels will come off before long.