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Dr Harrop

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Amoregentlemanlikemanner · 25/02/2019 23:10

could someone bring me up to speed? Last I saw he was merrily tweeting and being talked about here.

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Datun · 25/03/2019 09:07

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 25/03/2019 09:10

What does Hayden mean by saying I'd be very interested to learn what you were eating?

The daily mail mentioned Caroline Farrow cooking gammon.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 25/03/2019 09:11

That’s quite stalkerish

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 25/03/2019 09:12

I have no doubt that posting here, highlight things so they can be deleted and constant 'updates' are going to do more damage to the GMC investegation than good.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 25/03/2019 09:14

The utter beauty of Haddock sharing a certificate on his twitter he received ostensibly from Slimming World or some such declaring him 'greatest loser 2019' Grin Grin

Katvonmythicbiowoman · 25/03/2019 09:19

Aww it's all part of the lovely lovely rainbow heart non toxic debate.

Call a woman a Catholic cunt.

Double down in your "apology" (parodying caros tweet)

Woosh. He really hates her. 👀👀👀👀👀

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TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 25/03/2019 09:19

Personally I think he fucked up. I don't think he's arguing that changing rooms should be separated by sex rather than gender. I think he's trying to say (badly) that if transwomen have to change in the men's, then transwomen would have to change in the women's, which means that men could pretend to be transmen to get into women's spaces, as opposed to men pretending to be women.

Looks to me like he is admitting a certain subset of men will do anything to access womens spaces, that the lies are really nothing and regardless of what women try to do,m these men will persist.

Katvonmythicbiowoman · 25/03/2019 09:22

I don't know whether it's harmful or useful to record all this.

He's just so 👀 though.

Datun · 25/03/2019 09:37

The daily mail mentioned Caroline Farrow cooking gammon.

God, they are like schoolchildren.

HorsewithnoBackstop · 25/03/2019 11:02

Perhaps it's a euphemism for handing white men's arses to them?

sackrifice · 25/03/2019 11:05

When you have to troll mumsnet to gauge whether to apologise to a woman for the abuse you have just retweeted about her, or directly written about her, because it might look bad for the prolonged abuse you are currently being investigated for...it's really time to hang up your hat.

Honestly.

You are just justifying why women do not want to be in close proximity with abusive men. You are doing the thing that you are saying never happens.

Doctor, lawyer, whatever. Leave women alone.

Carowiththegoodhair · 25/03/2019 11:13

GMC are not interested in what’s on MN. They are interested in whether or not Dr H is following the advice he has already been given by them.

This is a public debate. I accept that I now appear to be a public figure with all the accompanying criticism. The issue is whether or not a doctor ought to be unapologetically and openly engaging in online intimidation.

Clearly he has abandoned any hope of registration.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 25/03/2019 11:15

You are just justifying why women do not want to be in close proximity with abusive men. You are doing the thing that you are saying never happens.

^ this, totally this

hipsterfun · 25/03/2019 11:51

Clearly he has abandoned any hope of registration.

His family must be delighted to see him pissing away his prospects.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 25/03/2019 11:53

I do wonder what Morher Haddock thinks of all this.

LizzieSiddal · 25/03/2019 13:01

I reckon ihe meant to Retweet that disgusting Tweet, from one of his sock accounts.

littlbrowndog · 25/03/2019 13:46

Is that surely religious hate ?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 25/03/2019 15:19

Just common or garden general hate

Datun · 25/03/2019 15:24

I reckon ihe meant to Retweet that disgusting Tweet, from one of his sock accounts.

Yes. Calling a woman a vile catholic cunt who deserves vitriol isn't something you ever do by mistake.

What a piece of work.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 25/03/2019 16:46

Hmm certainly looks like ‘oops my bad’ and to channel father Jack ‘I’m soooo, sooooooooo soreeeeeeeee’

pombear · 26/03/2019 00:11

I usually ignore Harrop threads, as I don't feel it's worth the oxygen.

But today's posts here have really affected me.

I work in, and volunteer elsewhere in, areas which require me to be non-judgemental. Supportive.

I know that, even though we're non-judgemental in our actions towards others, lots of people doing these type of roles (including myself) will still have opinions, judgements, but will keep them to ourselves.

And I somehow naively parked that, and told myself that, whatever their beliefs, they'd treat all-comers without sparking up their own prejudices

But to see a purported Doctor endorse someone else saying another human (Caroline) deserved all the vitriol they would get.

Not for murdering someone. Not for raping someone. {Again, whilst these are all actions where most of us would naturally suspend our non-judgemental framework, and judge away, some roles need this not to be the case)

But for stating medical facts, honestly, with language that this Doctor would recognise.

And to then witness this so-called 'doctor' baiting, and snarking, and siding with people who deride the wishes of women who are asking for single-sex spaces in healthcare, prisons, refuges, changing rooms, life in general, and smearing as them as being somehow bigots.

I'm gobsmacked.
And disappointed in both Harrop and the system that is currrently protecting him.
And that not more people are calling him out on this.

pombear · 26/03/2019 00:36

Oh, and hey Adrian.

I've only seen this referenced occasionally on FWR. (And I know it's a bit like 'fight club' as we're not really meant to talk about what goes on in fight club!)

But one of my volunteer roles meant that I've spoken to many, many men who wished to share with the support line I was volunteering with their love of silky knickers, 'being trapped in the wrong body', and then, no surprise, more stuff.

Usually on a Saturday morning.

Using a line that's intended for people going through emotional distress.

Using that line to try to get a sexual kick.

I always wished those men could actually see who and where we were accessing those calls. Whilst they probably thought they were 'shocking' Betty, aged 76 (though many of those 'Betty, aged 76' are as much likely to be a rocking feminist who takes amy more shit than Leya, 22, just getting started is) the reality would probaby deflate their cock. Given that they're going for shock-value and wank fest. Note to 'transwomen' calling a helpline to tell us your fantasies- we're not that shocked!

In summary, Ade, you either have no idea where your vitriol for women standing up for women's rights, and your support for 'men who identify as women' ends up as a result.

Or you do, and you don't care.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 26/03/2019 07:39

For some lighter Haddock related relief

twitter.com/Dex_starz/status/1110437313635643392?s=20

😂😂😂

Finally he felt safe enough... Remember the days when coming out as 'cis' could get you a prison sentence or see you disowned by your family? Oh wait...

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 26/03/2019 07:45

I don’t get it? Did he ‘come out’ as a human being? Who’d’ve thunk it?

ErrolTheDragon · 26/03/2019 07:56

Maybe it was meant to be ironic in some way?Confused