Unfortunately, I tend to end up with straight men, even though I am not a woman.

[FloralBuntingIsObnoxious]

For connoisseurs of magnificently pretentious navel gazing, this is pure gold. I have tears of mirth rolling down my cheeks at some of this, and it's utterly impossible to parody. I don't know how Titania does it, tbh.

My favourite part?

These responses have been edited for length and clarity.

You really can't tell.

www.teenvogue.com/story/what-dating-and-love-is-like-for-10-non-binary-people

(Oh, and I'm not going to be twee and put 'light hearted' in the thread title, because there is no way any rational person could take any of this seriously at all)

GeorgeFanyne thank you for articulating so well what I was thinking. The contradiction between "you're worth it" and please validate me was the thing that stood out to me. The entitlement to validation is also apparent and anyone failing to deliver is considered transphobic. It's troubling because as you point out; a sense of contentment and happiness can only come from within.

A tweet from the author of that piece

What I dont understand is if they are non binary ie identify as either man or woman how can they be trans as well. I mean what are they transing from/to? My head hurts I think I will go back to bed!

Yes I must admit my late teenage nephews never miss a chance to say 'did you just assume my gender?' in sarky tones whenever they can. They see this whole thing as a joke.

So the author is yet another woman hating transwoman who also seems to despise 'c*shets'

They seem incredibly ... brittle? They want a partner who will consistently tell the fib about them being neither sex. Constant worship at the shrine of identity. Any slip from perfect pretence is to be seen as phobia and violence. Even for true believers, if attracted to a female body, surely it must be hard not to slip up and say something that admits the body you're sleeping with is female from time to time. It seems a bit like dating a religious person who is constantly policing your speech for signs of ungodliness (NARPALT).

Yep the author is a Transwoman who thinks they will get a uterus implanted and gestate an baby

I really don't understand the idea that non-binary people think they are in any way new or special.
Going by their own definitions (admittedly vague and non descript) I myself would be classified as non-binary I certainly could never be described as "cis" - I don't relate to that term at all.
If i was to describe myself (job, interests, education, who I am sexually attracted to) one would assume I was a man. In fact a trans activist on Twitter once diagnosed me as probably being a trans man.

Difference is, I know that it really does not matter and I don't need validation.
I am just me, I don't need fancy attention seeking names or an "identity" other than being a perfectly normal (well ok, maybe not that normal) person who has a female body but rejects the stereotypes generally expected of a woman - as millions of other women do to.
This stuff is so regressive it is embarrassing for these kids.

Most well adjusted people are going to run a mile from people with this level of self absorption.

Relationships are reciprocal. This seems to be a very simple lesson - you know, the type of thing you reinforce with your children about simple friendships when they're in the Early Years school stage - that these twits have never learned.

Oh good Lord I have just read my post. Navel gazing navel gazing. Sorry

Although naval gazing sounds more fun

All that hand wringing about being special and super sensitive yet she is not only capable of thinking something like that but sees nothing wrong in putting it the public domain

I wasnt going to comment on the article as i was a bit meh

But that tweet!!!!

Im only on page 1 but i agree completely with pink

I was talking to a friend last night and she mentioned that there are now 76 genders

We had a little disagreement, but later i was thinking

Why do we NOW have 76 genders

Either everyone in the world knows about this, or we always had 76 genders

Or its just a new way of labelling feelings which we have always had and never needed labelling

Yes, agreed that once you've read one or two of these ponderings, it gets tedious. Some of the incomprehensible phrasing was unintentionally funny. They were not all teens being earnest in that teenager manner common to us all.

I'm not saying I don't understand why they would be choosing to check out from modern concepts of 'woman'. I am saying that this kind of article fits in with the web-wide network of YouTube and Tumblr etc. that is grooming young people into thinking that their self-absorbed goth phase is actually the most unique and special expression of their true selves, and that will have consequences. Some of the women in that article will be planning or may have had elective cosmetic mastectomies because of the environment created by this article and things like it.

That's not even slightly innocuous.

Christ alive - when did dating become so tedious and earnest? No sense of fun in any of those at all, it's depressing.

Tracey Ullman's "overly woke support group" sketch is spot on.

mobile.twitter.com/bbccomedy/status/1010189882503950336?lang=en

I don't think anyone shared this yet, apologies if it's a duplicate

Nuts

I'm just speechless. Honestly.

How the hell is this sick psychopath allowed to Tweet (much less be a "journalist") and Megan Murphy is banned from Twitter for saying that transwomen are not women? How is this ok?

I really despair for our future if this is becoming so widespread.

No wonder children and especially teenagers are suffering from mental health issues.

Growing up is hard enough without all this emphasis on gender. I'm sorry and I'll probably be dismissed as an unwoke old fart but 76 genders. Really???

All I can hope is that most youngsters are not in fact like this and to be fair most of the teenagers I know are not.

I find the way our society is going truly frightening and that Tweet is absolutely disgusting. I would be seriously worried about the mental stability of the Tweeter.

I guess the thing is that like most teen madness of being a teen many are on the periphery whilst fully engaging in the excessive intensity of the trending moment and will move on. I have over heard many a crazy teen convo, often they don't mean a helluva lot! Just intensity at the timetime, and said teens mature aand forget they ever spoke that way.

There have always been goths, and perhaps that means there always will, they do seem to be many of the most fragile (in a kindly sense) of the teen egos.

I am wondering whether it's a bit like looking at Farcebook and assuming that the highlights posted there are a complete reflection of reality, when they are literally o ly highlights and they didn't post pics of the awful row or the thing that broke, or the tears they cry, or the lonely times. That this is what they talk about, and current.

Their mental health is a huge worry.

Nuts

Another one in need of a good psychiatrist and a medication check, I see. It's so childish it's ridiculous, there are times I get so bored with all this that I seriously find myself thinking, as a grown woman, I am having to spend time reading and dealing with all this idiocy (which is like an endless rainy school breaktime with never ending Miss, Miss, he misgendered me breathed at me wrong, Sam loves Isla, James is gay, yes he is, no he isn't, I hope you die, I want my mum) because the ruddy establishment of the United Kingdom are too ruddy thick, lazy and up themselves to notice what they're sleepwalking into.

Oh God it's the juxtaposition between that vile, stunted individual and the kids talking in the article.

One is an absolute raging misogynistic nut job, and the others appear to be confused victims who he/she has exploited for an article.

I agree with what everyone has said. They are trying to label themself, in order to legitimise what is a perfectly normal viewpoint. Presumably because they are under pressure to be other than normal.

The utter hypocrisy of the exact same bloody publication pressuring underage kids into anal sex, has not gone unnoticed.

I'm also struck by how almost all teenagers now meet people via online forums, or apps.

The woman who said something like she doesn't get out much and hasn't had many dates, sounds very unsurprising to me.

They don't seem to get out into the real world and mix with a cross-section of real people. They are 'mixing' online with people where everything is getting more and more distilled down. Talking about everything, and doing nothing.

But that bloody awful, degenerate revelling in fetal death.

Dear God.

Also, these... I think tweets are now locked, but someone else had already saved these

Wow, 'Serena Sonoma' is vile. Like an Incel. I haven't read that type of hate-fuelled craziness since I googled incel.

For people who believe that ‘transwomen are women’, they certainly seem to harbour a lot of hatred for women’s bodies.

I think a lot of the trans activist mindset comes from being shallow feckless 20-somethings who have never been responsible for anything in life other than their own pleasure. Only someone that immature could make ‘jokes’ like that.

And yes, it is more reminiscent of a male incel mindset than something a woman would write. Again, evidence that a lot of transwomen retain their male privilege and attitudes of entitlement while wanting to appropriate female ‘privileges’ (what they see as privileges) such as gestation, breastfeeding, periods etc. Oh and painting their nails and wearing pretty dresses of course because that’s what all of us gals love to do...

I'm glad that they separate themselves out as 'pregnant tw' as opposed to actual real life actually pregnant women.

Are they reading from a book or something where it happens that men get pregnant and bf