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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

#TeamNavratilova is gathering pace!

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SpeakUpXXWomen · 20/02/2019 12:19

Firing Martina from Allies is working out to be an own goal as more people stand up and speak out on this.

twitter.com/hashtag/TeamNavratilova?src=hash

We know how twitter works Hmm in regards to women speaking out so perhaps this thread could be a place to gather excellent quotes and pictures for people to spread across other platforms and show that Martina's views are shared not by a trickle of support but a tidal wave.

I feel in need of a very nice #TeamNavratilova picture to put on my fbook, any social media gurus around to advise?

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zanahoria · 22/02/2019 00:07

Martina won 10 Grand Slam mixed doubles events, the first at the French Open when she was 17 and the last at the US Open when she was 49.

SpeakUpXXWomen · 22/02/2019 00:43

<a class="break-all" href="https://drudgetoday.com/article/?u=pjmedia.com/trending/lgbt-sports-group-drops-martina-navratilova-over-objections-to-transgender-athletes/&n=0&s=2&c=1&pn=Anonymous" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">drudgetoday.com/article/?u=pjmedia.com/trending/lgbt-sports-group-drops-martina-navratilova-over-objections-to-transgender-athletes/&n=0&s=2&c=1&pn=Anonymous

Indeed, boys who identify as girls have been defeating biological girls in high school track and other sports. In one bizarre case, a high school boy who identifies as a girl won two girls' state championships — as a freshman.

Rather than weighing the merits of Navratilova's claims, Athlete Ally took offense at her stunning act of heresy. The lesbian tennis star had the gall to describe "trans woman" as men who "decide to be female," oh horror!

Pam Shriver is #TeamNavratilova

twitter.com/PHShriver/status/1098450240338718721

Ben Bradley

twitter.com/HalfPintLou/status/1098727747055206401

Jamie Shupe - once trans now #IStandWithMartina

twitter.com/NotableDesister/status/1098726654334115840

Fox TV are on it, good luck Abigail Shrier
twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1098713855776223233
twitter.com/MancResisters/status/1098726056440283138

Dr Dina McMillan - abuse prevention expert
twitter.com/drdina1/status/1098718949951172608

pjmedia.com/trending/lgbt-sports-group-drops-martina-navratilova-over-objections-to-transgender-athletes/

www.theblaze.com/news/gay-journalist-slams-lgbt-group-over-navratilova

nypost.com/2019/02/20/the-insane-gay-backlash-against-martina-navratilova/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

Everybody is speaking up. What a glorious sight Grin

#TeamNavratilova
#IStandWithMartina

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andyoldlabour · 22/02/2019 08:16

"Martina Navratilova’s recent comments on trans athletes are transphobic, based on a false understanding of science and data"

Wow!
If anyone is planning to go on a nice cruise ship holiday, remember to tell the captain not to go anywhere near the edge of the ocean where ships fall off Wink
On a more serious note, the MSM needs to get these fruitloops onto a radio/TV programme with sane people debating them.
If they refuse to debate, then there needs to be a critical documentary which takes apart their ridiculous arguments.

littlbrowndog · 22/02/2019 08:31

Reading a lot on twitter
Seems to be why do women even have to justify no men in women’s sports

The men who want to be in women’s sports have to justify it.
And having a feeling doesn’t hack it

pancaketosser · 22/02/2019 08:43

Martina won 10 Grand Slam mixed doubles events, the first at the French Open when she was 17 and the last at the US Open when she was 49.

I just looked up her wiki page because I didn't know this and bloody hell that's some career.

"Navratilova was world No. 1 for a total of 332 weeks in singles, and a record 237 weeks in doubles, making her the only player in history to have held the top spot in both singles and doubles for over 200 weeks. She was year-end singles No. 1 seven times, including a record of five consecutive years, as well as year-end doubles No. 1 five times, including three consecutive years during which she held the ranking for the entire year.

She won 18 Grand Slam singles titles, 31 major women's doubles titles (an all-time record), and 10 major mixed doubles titles, combined marking the open-era record for the most number of Grand Slam titles won by one player, male or female. She reached the Wimbledon singles final 12 times, including for nine consecutive years from 1982 through 1990, and won the women's singles title at Wimbledon a record nine times."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Navratilova

Yeah, she knows her onions.

boatyardblues · 22/02/2019 09:10

My favourite thing about this whole bunfight has been learning more about Martina’s career, as I was only vaguely aware of the extent of her achievements. She is a hugely impressive and admirable individual. I’m middle aged, so it pleases me to think this is raising her profile anongst younger people.

HandsOffMyRights · 22/02/2019 09:21

Oh and here's another image to lock away. It's a level basketball court after all.

#TeamNavratilova is gathering pace!
HandsOffMyRights · 22/02/2019 09:24

Sorry...wrong thread. Meant for the AIBU thread where the odd poster still sees no issue with MvF in sport.

Katvonfelttipeyebrows · 22/02/2019 09:26

Fingers crossed for Abigail Shrier

McKinnon busy acting like it's a boxing match and trying to out psych their opponent.

Such a bully......"She doesn't know what's she's up against"

#TeamNavratilova is gathering pace!
#TeamNavratilova is gathering pace!
EweSurname · 22/02/2019 09:27

What I don’t understand about that image is why a middle aged xy is playing on a college basketball team. I’m sure there are reasons it makes sense but anyone know how the age thing was circumvented?

HandsOffMyRights · 22/02/2019 09:27

Ewe - exactly what I said on the other thread!

Justhadathought · 22/02/2019 09:31

The more exposure the better. When this nonsense is finally seen for what it is - then all the better. So far, it has been a top down, slipped through imposition. Sailing in on the coat tails of political correctness and people's fear of being a 'phobe' of some sort or other.

Datun · 22/02/2019 10:24

From the Twitter link above:

Can you imagine what it's like to be the daughter of a professional male athlete that's watching the saga of Martina Navratilova playout in the media and your father has nothing to say on her behalf?

Men speak the fuck up.

I abhor the fact that we need men, but I believe we do. At this particular stage of the debate. There are, quite literally, thousands of women speaking up, but their voices don't count as much as one man.

So yes, men should speak the fuck up. Sports men, sports pundits, scientists.

Stop cowering.

terryleather · 22/02/2019 10:35

So yes, men should speak the fuck up. Sports men, sports pundits, scientists.

Stop cowering.

Ever the pessimist, I'm afraid I don't think they're cowering I just think they don't gaf

Datun · 22/02/2019 10:42

I agree, most of them, but a lot of them do.

They need to say so. They need to bloody well back Martina.

Paging Andy Murray.

Floisme · 22/02/2019 10:48

Can we page John McEnroe while we're at it? Not someone who's known for keeping his mouth shut. Played mixed doubles so presumably knows the truth. Three daughters.

MrsJamin · 22/02/2019 10:49

(By the way OP you've spelt her name wrong its Navratilova - with an I - you might want to amend your hashtag)

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 22/02/2019 10:54

I am very close to coming out properly as a GC woman who demands single sex spaces.

I've mumbled and Ive RTd and I've grumbled.

It'll cost me work. But, it's that or Gilead - the fuckers are silencing me.

Martina is proper brave, and always has been.

SpeakUpXXWomen · 22/02/2019 12:46

Apologies for any SPAG errors, I tired!

Vivaria isn't this the perfect GC ice breaker for work?

"Hey what do you think of Martina Navratilova, isn't she amazing? I had no idea how many titles she held until I looked her up this week after reading her piece about women's sport - Did you read it?"

Maybe it is time for some badges/mugs/tshirts that say --->
#TeamNavratilova
#IStandWithMartina

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OlennasWimple · 22/02/2019 13:24

Ewe - Gabrielle Ludwig is the stunning and brave ex marine who decided to "become a girl" in their 50s and return to college. They have literally had two bites of the cherry, because most people are not allowed to do this twice, but Ludwig is both a completely different person now to when they were a college kid before, whilst also having always been a woman inside

And, in case you were wondering, the fact that they are 6'6" doesn't give them an advantage in college basketball, because of their age. The fact that they were leading in points scored and rebounds is clearly just coincidental

(The article I linked to ^^ is worth reading - when you are sitting down and assuming you don't have high blood pressure.... - if only to see the attitude of many US college sports guys. "If it's within the rules I do it, because winning is the most important thing")

andyoldlabour · 22/02/2019 14:35

The attitude of these "athletes" is no different to that of a doper.
Whether it be McKinnon in cycling or Ludwig in basketball, they seem to be aloof to the reaction of their competitors and the fans, and seem to be outraged that people are booing when they see a cheat.

Juells · 22/02/2019 15:18

That espn article reeks of self-delusion.

EweSurname · 22/02/2019 20:09

Thanks olenna! Do you mean if someone went back to college but didn’t “change” their gender, they wouldn’t be allowed to play on the team?

EweSurname · 22/02/2019 20:09

Martina is still having to defend herself

#TeamNavratilova is gathering pace!
boatyardblues · 22/02/2019 20:14

Glad she’s sticking to her guns.