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Sky News just featured story appearing in tomorrow's Sunday Mail

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TheCatsServant · 09/02/2019 23:13

Apparently a woman spent 8 hours in a cell/being interviewed by the police for a "transphobic" Tweet along the lines of TWAW. Can't bring myself to buy the Mail tomorrow to check the details, but it may be taken up by other papers.

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TimeLady · 10/02/2019 08:43

Martin Beckford is the DM's Home Affairs editor, not some rookie journo. This could get even more interesting.

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TimeLady · 10/02/2019 09:21

Also the fact that this story was seemingly picked up via Mumsnet shows how important this platform is for the 'little guy' to have a voice.

Flowers MNHQ

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/02/2019 09:31

could it then follow that in cases where a crime was committed by a male who now ‘identifies’ as a female, then that crime can not be linked to the perpetrator?

This has been used as a defence, yes.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 10/02/2019 09:31

Here's the link to the mail article again

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6687123/Mother-arrested-children-calling-transgender-woman-man.html

The more hits it receives, the more prominently it is displayed on the site. It's already quite high up Grin

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GerryblewuptheER · 10/02/2019 09:38

Odd there appears to be no comments yet...

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SonicVersusGynaephobia · 10/02/2019 09:44

Insanity.

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hackmum · 10/02/2019 09:49

Comments are probably disabled for legal reasons.

I remember Hayden boasting on Twitter a while back about getting s woman in Hitchin arrested - so now it’s come to light.

Kate herself mentioned it on the thread about the 74 year old woman who was phoned by police.

How is it that Hayden, who has a criminal record, has so much influence with the police?

Kate - if there’s anything we can do to help, let us know. I’m so angry on your behalf.

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Iused2BanOptimist · 10/02/2019 09:51

Millytant
Interesting that the law assumes a man will be behind such crimes eh?

The DM isn't taking any risks with comments I see but lots of sharing going on.

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RomanticFatigue · 10/02/2019 09:59

They aren't accepting comments.

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Mysterian · 10/02/2019 10:03

"She is also alleged to have used accounts in two names to 'harass, defame, and publish derogatory and defamatory tweets' about Miss Hayden, including referring to her as male, stating she was 'racist, xenophobic and a crook' and mocking her as a 'fake lawyer'."

A bit more than just calling a trans woman a man.

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AnyFucker · 10/02/2019 10:05

Hit me baby one more time....

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BoreOfWhabylon · 10/02/2019 10:18

Article now shared 31,000 times!

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sackrifice · 10/02/2019 10:26

A bit more than just calling a trans woman a man.

a - alleged
b - loads of people have more than one twitter account. It isn't illegal.
c - which bit do you purport is untrue: the male bit, the racist bit, the xenophobe bit or the fake lawyer bit?

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Bowlofbabelfish · 10/02/2019 10:31

A bit more than just calling a trans woman a man.

Truth is a defence - Steph was indeed convicted of the offence in the link above. Lawyer is not a protected term like solicitor.
Humans cannot change sex.
I’m not sure about the xenophobia - I dont follow steph on twitter. But three out of four seem to be statements backed up by fact.

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Datun · 10/02/2019 10:39
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ToeToToe · 10/02/2019 10:42

"The Mail on Sunday and Beckford can expect a strong legal response"

Too late, Stephanie. The cat's out of the bag now.

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FlyingOink · 10/02/2019 10:47

The flying golf club lawyer strikes again

I'm reading this 2 days after a particularly brutal murder of a woman local to me. Her boyfriend has been arrested and the case already referred for investigation as she had had contact with the police about him

See, this is what we need lawyers for. Her family should sue the police for failing to act. Not enough funding? But funding enough to waste a cell, arresting officers and interviewing DCs on "waahhh she called me something I don't like"? That's a decision from top brass to spend money on one thing and not the other. A deliberate decision to make misgendering more of a priority than domestic abuse. And I'm not even suggesting it's the same police force but it would be easy to find similar examples.
Of what funding there is, decisions have been made across the country to ringfence funds for "hurty feelings" and not for serious crime. The victims of that serious crime, which is not being dealt with, need to hold those chief constables to account.

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Mysterian · 10/02/2019 10:51

I'm not saying either party is right or wrong, just that the allegations are serious.

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Deathgrip · 10/02/2019 10:54

I was once a victim of violent behaviour, serious threats and narrowly avoided serious injury while heavily pregnant - police were called by an onlooker, they let him set his own interview date and made him write me an apology letter. That was it.

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Bowlofbabelfish · 10/02/2019 10:54

They aren’t serious. Annoying someone on twitter isn’t a crime. If your feelings being hurt makes you go to the police in a radge then you are the problem. No one has a right to not be offended.

Serious? Honestly

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Bowlofbabelfish · 10/02/2019 10:55

My comment above to mysterian, not deathgrip

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ToeToToe · 10/02/2019 11:00

None of the allegations that I've read are "serious" - I happened to read this twitter exchange at the time. It was an argument on twitter - not a police matter. End of.

Herts police have lost their minds.

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Notthebloodymustardcushion · 10/02/2019 11:03

Go to facebook, comments are being made on the shared article.

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Iused2BanOptimist · 10/02/2019 11:04

Hahaha. The twitter comments. There's going to be a lot of blocking and reporting going on today. Someone is at risk of getting repetitive stress injury. Grin

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