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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Message from Lynne Featherstone Lib Dems

232 replies

PaleBlueMoonlight · 01/02/2019 17:27

“I also have a message to those people who believe they can restrict trans women’s rights, deny their human rights, or exclude them from women-only spaces in the name of feminism: You are not feminists. Your views are not welcome in the Liberal Democrats.”

Just in case anyone is interested in what the Lib Dems are saying.

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Juells · 04/02/2019 14:14

*it gives me time to have training, support, mentorship. That ... is desperately welcomed because it was missing in the Green Party".

Still think that they're entitled to be advising everyone else about diversity though. The quote above is just empty words.

VickyEadie · 04/02/2019 14:26

The notion that a person of this age and total lack of meaningful experience outside their (damaged and damaging) family and very limited interest-group 'community' might be given an 'officer' role in a political party is something of a concern. That it's a 'diversity' officer role when their only experience is of an incredibly limited range of 'diversity' tells me all I need to know about the Libdems and which 'diverse' group they're prioritising.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 04/02/2019 14:29

If I rocked up to any party HQ and said ‘I’d like a position please’ they’d tell me to bigger off. And rightly so. But to give someone - who has just jumped onboard - with a chequered last and single focus of what ‘diversity’ is, is rather mind boggling.

Who would think that they are just entitled to have a position because they want one? What a brass neck!

VickyEadie · 04/02/2019 14:45

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD

The word you're looking for in your puzzlement is 'narcissist'.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 04/02/2019 14:46

The word I was thinking was quite rude and I’m trying to be good 😇

RedemptiveCrocodile · 04/02/2019 14:47

FiLiA made me chuckle today:

twitter.com/FiLiA_charity/status/1092421503109468167

Popchyk · 04/02/2019 14:50

"I've agreed with the Liberal Democrats that I'm not going to stand for councillor or MP for two years at least. That gives me time to ... heal after ... the pain that he's caused, it gives me time to have training, support, mentorship. That ... is desperately welcomed because it was missing in the Green Party".

Note that at no time does AC mention doing any actual fucking work on behalf of the Lib Dems. Or the local community.

Perhaps picking up litter from the canal, tackling poverty in the local area, or addressing loneliness and isolation for older people. All the things that an ordinary new member of a party might conceivably be involved in before standing for Parliament.

But not for AC, oh no. The two year timeframe is purely for the Lib Dems to provide AC with training, support and mentorship.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 04/02/2019 14:53

Therapy? Was therapy mentioned? Are they still living with their delightful mum (the one who bitched about the child victim on social media?l)?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 04/02/2019 14:54

I have a long memory though.

Popchyk · 04/02/2019 15:21

Ask not what you can do for the Lib Dems, tell the Lib Dems what they must do for you.

snowbear66 · 04/02/2019 15:32

Her twitter is like a notice board for Paris Lees, she calls Graham Linahen 'an ill-informed and dangerous man'.....shouldn't politicians keep a bit of distance, be a bit scepticaland read around subjects impartially instead of leaping in to child like activism, ..she can't be the brightest.

RepealTheGRA · 04/02/2019 15:34

WTAF? That really is all I’ve got. WTAF?????

OlennasWimple · 04/02/2019 15:54

AC is also newly engaged. So while I genuinely hope that they are able to move on with their life and find happiness, someone in the LDs should have prevented AC from taking a position so soon after the whole damn debacle (and certainly until AC had proven that they understand what safeguarding actually is - the Veritas report was clear that this was a terrible gap in AC's comprehension)

ProfessoressWoland · 04/02/2019 16:01

A person who has demonstrated failure to understand safeguarding and whose idea of inclusion is terfblocker has been appointed Diversity Officer? And Lynne Featherstone thinks that gender-critical women should leave the party?
Looking very credible there, LibDems.

Bluestitch · 04/02/2019 16:06

AC's twitter is like tumbleweed, spends most of the time tweeting to themselves. The result of the blocker I guess. But how can someone be an officer of a political party if diverse opinion is silenced.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 04/02/2019 16:33

Really sad and frustrated by this. I'm not a lib-dem, but live in a safe tory-seat and have voted LD in the past as an anti-tory protest.

Who the fuck do I vote for now?

Weezol · 04/02/2019 18:04

Assuming AC still thinks safeguarding still means 'data protection', maybe that would be a good place for the Lib Dems to start with regard to training?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 04/02/2019 18:33

Considering the threats certain labour personages have made with regards to getting their sticky little hands on lovely data/contact lists...

2ndWaveFeminist · 05/02/2019 17:33

In the unlikely event of Lib Dem (or Labour) coming around canvassing at the next election I will be telling both why I won't be voting for them.

RepealTheGRA · 05/02/2019 17:56

Perhaps send local candidates a link to this thread, it would be a good ‘focus group’ for them Wink

ChattyLion · 06/02/2019 09:01

I’m confused by this. Do the Lib Dems normally have long list of who they will want as a candidate that is ready more than 2 years ahead..? I thought it was a very open competitive process with hustings meetings and very hard to get selected locally as a prospective parliamentary candidate.

Also that it wouldn’t really be possible for the Party to know who would be the right fit for a constituency more than two years ahead of time given all the boxes that someone would need to tick to be electable in the future in any given constituency because of the changeable local and national issues landscape. What am I missing here?

Or has Aimee just been given more empty patronisingsucking-up of a head-patting tokenistic kind? like whatever Labour MP it was that said ‘I’m keeping a seat warm for you in the House of Commons’ to Lily Madigan?

Seeing as how normally there’s you know, quite a bit more to becoming an MP than an existing (female) MP just budging up on the benches Hmm

You know like actually fighting to become a candidate for years then working towards election time as a candidate for years leading local campaigns and then successfully fighting an election to become an MP?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/02/2019 09:31

Being an MP is hard and thankless. I don’t think people think.

SanFranBear · 06/02/2019 12:57

As previously mentioned, I'm a lifelong LibDem voter and previous member before this debacle and it pains me massively as I genuinely support a lot of their policies.

Which is why I find it so bizarre that you're not just a member but an officer within a political party - surely this means you wholeheartedly support the vast majority of their political leanings and policy. How then, can you just switch parties?

I have been trying to find a political home for myself and I just can't - trying to find something I agree with in a lot of Tory policies or Labour manifestos is just not happening - which is why I was a LibDem through and through. You can be single-minded and as a bog standard prole, you can cast your vote on a single issue if you're so inclined, but to represent that party - you should believe in what the party as a whole is doing, you should want to see all their policies come to fruition.

I just don't get it.. am genuinely leaning towards communism as there is some synergy with the LibDems agenda and they are very clear on their stance with regards to women.. Confused. Frankly, I am just so sick of this shit

welshgendercrit · 06/02/2019 19:18

SanFranBear I feel your pain, I really do, as what you've written applies to me too. Lifelong LibDem voter and former member, but I just can't vote for them as they are now. Unfortunately, here in Wales, there are no obvious alternatives. Plaid Cymru has many progressive policies, as do the Greens, but both parties have drunk the transgender Kool-Aid to the dregs. I'm faced with the deeply depressing prospect of not voting at an election for the first time in my life and it hurts.

merrymouse · 06/02/2019 19:35

I thought it was a very open competitive process with hustings meetings and very hard to get selected locally as a prospective parliamentary candidate.

Perhaps not in Coventry if you want to stand for the Lib Dems.

I also think that, while I'm increasingly willing to believe anything of the Lib Dems, there might be a very big gap between AC's understanding of their role within the Lib Dems and reality.