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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Message from Lynne Featherstone Lib Dems

232 replies

PaleBlueMoonlight · 01/02/2019 17:27

“I also have a message to those people who believe they can restrict trans women’s rights, deny their human rights, or exclude them from women-only spaces in the name of feminism: You are not feminists. Your views are not welcome in the Liberal Democrats.”

Just in case anyone is interested in what the Lib Dems are saying.

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BlooperReel · 03/02/2019 17:25

Dear Lynne Featherstone,

The Lib Dems are a shocking shower of shite anyway.

Sincerely,

Someone who gives zero fucks on your idea of what a feminist is.

ChattyLion · 03/02/2019 20:30

Excellent points Haringey.
The stress of starting your working life out in huge debt, the repayments and putting off the rest of the important things you need to be paying for like a decent home or having kids or making your pensions contributions. Tuition fees also have changed the student- university relationship into a client-provider relationship that seems to mean a race to the bottom in lots of ways.

merrymouse · 04/02/2019 08:49

Just to clarify, hellandhairnets, I do not oppose same-sex marriage and I know that it is important to many same-sex couples.

Same sex marriage is undoubtedly a good thing because it is a recognition that same sex relationships have equal status. However, legally there is very little difference between civil partnerships and marriage. The big social changes happened under the Blair Labour government with the Civil Partnerships Act and the end of Section 28.

DrudgeJedd · 04/02/2019 09:20

We all know that Aimee Challenor has just been appointed as Diversity Officer for Coventry LibDems yes?

Message from Lynne Featherstone Lib Dems
Weezol · 04/02/2019 09:43

Dear Lib Dems

You lost my vote when you jumped into bed with the Tories and allowed them to fuck this country up the arse without even the courtesy of a reach around.

Your recent statements as to who is and is not 'welcome' in the party confirms my decision.

Rookie mistake Lynne. You need votes.
Desperately. You may want to reconsider who holds the power in your relationship with the electorate.

Yours sincerely

A Feminist.

                  ☆☆☆☆☆

Too much?

Juells · 04/02/2019 09:46

just been appointed as Diversity Officer for Coventry LibDems yes?

WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF? Is there a date for that?

After everything that was said in that impact report for the Greens.

GCAcademic · 04/02/2019 09:46

Wow. Just what exactly does a trans person have to do to not be fawned over by the "progressive" political parties? No doubt Karen White and Nicola Huntley will have jobs waiting for them when they leave prison. They'll be able to take their pick from Labour, the Greens and Lib Dums.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 04/02/2019 09:48

Tea that saw the diversity officer appointment. I never know it covered (finish stream yourself). Why did the trans folk not claim daddy as one of theirs? Didn’t they dress as a little girl when they committed his crimes for which they now in jail?

DrudgeJedd · 04/02/2019 09:49

Juells it appeared on Twitter over the weekend so fairly recent I think.

MoreCheeseDear · 04/02/2019 09:58

No party supports we feminists.

Who can we vote for?

borntobequiet · 04/02/2019 10:00

Dear God they’re nuts.

GCAcademic · 04/02/2019 10:12

I wonder how many women Aimee is going to hound out of Coventry Lib Dems in her first month in post?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 04/02/2019 10:13

Has the guardian covered it at all? 🤔

Seriously, after Bernie and Trump it’s like the world is working backwards these days. Opposite world and all that.

But I guess it just shows you that males do have the upper hand. A woman politician can’t fart in public without being hounded out of her job.

stillathing · 04/02/2019 10:17

I don't want to vote for a centrist left party either. I am much leftier than that! Trans activism does not compute to me as being at all left wing. Seriously done with this post truth bollockation.

merrymouse · 04/02/2019 10:34

I wonder how many women Aimee is going to hound out of Coventry Lib Dems in her first month in post?

All 3 labour seats are safely labour, Coventry City Council is overwhelmingly labour and there are no Lib Dem councillors.

In 2016 the LDs did significantly worse than UKIP.

I suspect there may not be that many Coventry Lib Dems and would bet that nobody else wanted to be diversity officer.

I live in a very safe Tory seat and have always been under the impression that the other parties only spring into existence to show willing at election time. I imagine they struggle to have quorate meetings.

wigglybeezer · 04/02/2019 10:40

I've had a quick read of the Renew Party policy document, didn't spot any direct reference to identity politics and can see a lot of good ideas in there, immediately spotted some that have already been introduced in Scotland. Probably not left wing enough for some but I liked the profiles of their candidates in my area.
I don't know what their stance on self ID is but they seem keen on evidence based ideas which could be hopeful?

welshgendercrit · 04/02/2019 10:54

We all know that Aimee Challenor has just been appointed as Diversity Officer for Coventry LibDems yes?

Why am I not surprised? How does Aimee get people to overlook their appalling record like this?

MillytantForceit · 04/02/2019 10:58

Voting LibDumb in Cov is a good definition of a wasted vote.

All the tofu-knitters commute in from Solihull.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 04/02/2019 12:20

Yep. Coventry Labour is all "TWAW and if you don't like it you can fuck off".

Popchyk · 04/02/2019 12:23

Didn't AC say on the Radio 5 Live interview a couple of weeks ago that AC would not seek an official role in the Liberal Democrats for at least two years? In order to "heal".

Will see if I can find that.

Bowlofbabelfish · 04/02/2019 12:31

Entryism.

I don’t think I saw any actual environmental campaigning from Challenor when they were a Green. Like Lily Madigan, they are in a post / party with a specific agenda (Green/women’s Officer) but they use that position to push their own agenda.

What Challenor did in the greens was push a highly pro trans - anti opposition agenda (for example trying to bring in a rule that anyone comitting serious offences would not automatically be ejected from the party.)

Challenor now, to any reputable organisation, is a liability. For them to jump ship shows how they had no green agenda at all.

Perhaps we can add Coventry to Leeds in our list of ‘places where something is amiss.’

Popchyk · 04/02/2019 12:33

Ah, I misremembered it.

From the transcript on this thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3486244-Radio-5-Live-interview-with-Aimee-Challenor?pg=3

"I've agreed with the Liberal Democrats that I'm not going to stand for councillor or MP for two years at least. That gives me time to ... heal after ... the pain that he's caused, it gives me time to have training, support, mentorship. That ... is desperately welcomed because it was missing in the Green Party".

Gives an insight into AC's self-awareness that AC thinks them standing as an MP in two years is going to happen.

Lib Dems really needs to look into the safeguarding issues that surround the role of Diversity Officer.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 04/02/2019 13:18

Good lord. Challenor as MP would be a disaster.

PositivelyPERF · 04/02/2019 13:21

Good for Challenor junior. Hmm Unfortunately the little girl, that Challenor junior’s father tortured and abused in the family home, is unlikely to have healed in two years.

GCAcademic · 04/02/2019 13:27

The Lib Dems stand fuck all chance of getting elected in Coventry.

I'm trying to imagine the campaigning, though. Can you imagine having Aimee turn up on your doorstep? Will she be telling the sizeable Asian community that they are transphobic bigots for not wanting penises in the leisure centre's female changing rooms?

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